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Has anyone ever experienced getting Systemic Candida Yeast Infection after gastric bypass surgery? I think this might be related to some of my issues, but I can't seem to find any doctors willing to check and rule it out. Any advice would help!

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Ha! I just went through treatment for candida! I don't think mine was systemic, I had it in my GI tract.

It SUCKS!! I was told that it was not related to my surgery, and it was very rare to have an infection like I had. I was put on fluconazole for a month and just completed the treatment about a week ago. My doc told me she had no idea how I got it, and it "probably" wouldn't come back.

Mine was diagnosed by a fecal culture - you just haven't lived until you've had a fecal culture, just sayin'!

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Wow I was only put on Diflucan for 10 days...GI doctor said it looked clear. Did you have symptoms like not being able to eat or drink much? I also get foamies a lot....just curious what you have felt like! Sucks for sure.

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I CRAVED sugar, which hadn't happened since surgery. One day, the only thing I could eat was a small sugar cookie for supper. I even went to the Emergency Dept. w/fairly severe abdominal pain twice. So... nausea, stomach pain (not really cramping, just sharp pain) and incredible diarrhea were my symptoms. Water - for the first time ever - made me nauseated. It was rough for sure. 

In the midst of all the testing, my food allergy tests showed I am allergic to milk, egg whites, peanuts and tomatoes. I love yogurt, eggs and peanut butter. It's been a rough month and a half, lol.

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I CRAVED sugar, which hadn't happened since surgery. One day, the only thing I could eat was a small sugar cookie for supper. I even went to the Emergency Dept. w/fairly severe abdominal pain twice. So... nausea, stomach pain (not really cramping, just sharp pain) and incredible diarrhea were my symptoms. Water - for the first time ever - made me nauseated. It was rough for sure. 

In the midst of all the testing, my food allergy tests showed I am allergic to milk, egg whites, peanuts and tomatoes. I love yogurt, eggs and peanut butter. It's been a rough month and a half, lol.

What in the world is going on with you missy???

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What in the world is going on with you missy???

Those who believe in karma would say I was getting my just rewards for ... something.

I finally got a diagnosis from a fecal culture. But, I'm better now, I just finished the medicine and haven't had diarrhea for almost a whole week now. My doc said that it had nothing to do with my surgery, although when I was at the emergency dept., they were concerned about leaks, stricture, anything. But, all is well in that regard.

As far as dealing with my newly diagnosed food allergies? It's a struggle. I switched from FairLife milk to almond milk and I cut all cheese months ago. Eggs are a main staple of my diet though, along w/greek yogurt. I'm really not sure how I'm going to replace them. 

I couldn't work out for over a month, and am just now getting back into my crossfit box. 

I know of another WLS patient who had a candida infection. The science part of me says that if there are 3 of us who have had what my doc calls a very rare occurrence there has to be connecting dots somewhere.

 

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I'm going to interject with something tangentially related. My husband is prone to overgrowth of fungus. Doctors have told him that he's wrong, because babies, not adults, have issues with fungus.

I've mentioned once or twice that he adjusted his diet to cut down on carbs independently of my decision to have WLS, which has worked out great, because even though he's at a healthy weight, we're making similar food choices. When he deviates and eats a bunch of processed carbs, the yeast flares up. But by sticking to his eating plan 95%+ of the time, he feels a lot better most if the time.

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But, as a general rule, those of us who have had surgery are already cutting sugar and carbs. While I don't advocate or follow a zero-carb plan, I also very rarely eat bread, rice, pasta, potatoes, etc. I don't even eat complex carbs like brown rice or wheat bread. On the few occasions I go out to eat and I get a sandwich, I don't eat the bread. The only sugar I get is from my yogurt or in small quantities in the few other things I eat that contain it. I follow an almost strictly clean diet, as much as one can do so. I lean towards paleo and do not eat beans or cheese any more. I take a PB8. I don't see how my diet could have affected this... for the, oh... 40 years or so prior to surgery, I could definitely see my diet affecting a possible candida infection. But, now? Nope. 

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Those who believe in karma would say I was getting my just rewards for ... something.

I finally got a diagnosis from a fecal culture. But, I'm better now, I just finished the medicine and haven't had diarrhea for almost a whole week now. My doc said that it had nothing to do with my surgery, although when I was at the emergency dept., they were concerned about leaks, stricture, anything. But, all is well in that regard.

As far as dealing with my newly diagnosed food allergies? It's a struggle. I switched from FairLife milk to almond milk and I cut all cheese months ago. Eggs are a main staple of my diet though, along w/greek yogurt. I'm really not sure how I'm going to replace them. 

I couldn't work out for over a month, and am just now getting back into my crossfit box. 

I know of another WLS patient who had a candida infection. The science part of me says that if there are 3 of us who have had what my doc calls a very rare occurrence there has to be connecting dots somewhere.

 

I am inclined to agree. 

My friend had a cryptococcal infection in her lung. It is supposedly something that is usually only seen in HIV. It is extremely rare for healthy young people. She had to be on 6 months of diflucan. She was losing her hair by the handful and she was super run down. It was awful. 

About your food allergies. That is so lame. I'm sorry. 

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Sleevarilla, I get it. My thought the first time I saw mention of your candia infection was that it seemed weird, because you don't eat anything to fuel it. I'm glad you've recovered. Bummer about the allergies.

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I completely agree, we eat so healthy and limit sugars/carbs I don't understand, but the body is weird. I have been run down 24/7 and barely eating or drinking with major gas/bloating. For over a month. Docs still don't know what is going on. And I am finally getting them to test bacterial overgrowth and hopefully candida overgrowth. Sick of being sick!

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Dragging up an old thread I know, but this seemed the best place to post as it seems to show a trend. I've been feeling unwell for a couple of months. Had no idea what was going on but very run down, new digestive discomfort, and my body is reacting to almost every medication I've had to take lately (even those I've had no issues with before). Skin rashes and itching almost beyond the reach multiple antihistamines daily. I have had numerous abcesses in the genital area that meant taking antibiotics but these have come later in the time continuim rather than being the cause of the itching. I always took these with strong probiotics and increased yoghurt consumption, to the point I'm now having three meals a day that are yoghurt. I realised a couple of weeks ago that I had thrush (candida, I really hadn't seen it before and wasn't looking for it) and immediately took a 6 day fluconazole capsule. It made no difference at all other than to cause an immediate allergic reaction. About a week after taking that I had my annual gyn appoint so raised this issue. He did an exam and said the thrush was everywhere except where he would expect it to be (ie none in the mouth or the vaginal vault). He also could clearly feel yet another abcess forming quite deep under the skin. So this time I was prescribed really strong antibiotics as well as candida creams and pessary. He told me he wanted me to use the pessary just in case even though he saw no sign of candida internally. He did take swabs for culturing but I don't have a followup appoint for 3 more weeks. A week later there is still no difference. I'm still as run down as before, still very itchy,  have now developed a very productive cough which google tells me happens when candida gets into the lungs. The last couple of months I've also had increasing pain/discomfort in my intestines I'm very suspicious that I have a gastrointestinal candida infection, and can't see how creams or pessary can help fight something which would appear to be internal in origin. I do have an appointment with a general practicioner tomorrow, but am concerned he'll just brush this off. I've never dealt with him before. Would really like to get some kind of answer and treatment going before my next surgeon's appointment. 

This thread has made me think I'm not as crazy as I was beginning to think I was in relating my bypass to these infections. I did grab a couple of stool sample containers from the pathology service when I had my blood drawn this morning for my bariatric checkup. Thought I'd try to convince this doctor I've never seen before to order a culture. The second I grabbed so if he doesn't then at least the bariatric surgeon might. Not sure how to force the issue on this given it seems to be a problem that most doctors don't seem to realise exists, or don't know to look for.

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Wow, @Aussie Bear, that sounds pretty miserable. I'm sorry you're having to suffer that. I hope it clears soon.

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That sounds awful and mysterious. I hope you can find some answers, and fast. 

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Oh my, I'm so glad you're seeing you're physician and are prepared to be assertive as this can be quite serious.  Not to mention miserable!  I don't know why, especially this late post-op, but having gastrointestinal surgery is one of the listed risk factors for systemic candidiasis.  Along with diabetes (fungus loves sugar!), and many other issues that cause a weakened immune system.  I hope you get answers and relief soon!

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1 hour ago, msmarymac said:

Oh my, I'm so glad you're seeing you're physician and are prepared to be assertive as this can be quite serious.  Not to mention miserable!  I don't know why, especially this late post-op, but having gastrointestinal surgery is one of the listed risk factors for systemic candidiasis.  Along with diabetes (fungus loves sugar!), and many other issues that cause a weakened immune system.  I hope you get answers and relief soon!

Thanks. I didn't even know this existed before a few days ago, let alone how dangerous it can be if it goes on unchecked. When I read up on it all the pieces fell into place of what was going on. Had a miserable night last night which will hopefully keep my resolve to push this new doctor to actually do something, but I admit that I'm generally not good at doing that. Two hours to go until appointment now. I actually cancelled an appointment with a different doctor two weeks ago because I'd heard only dreadful reports of what he was like. Really hoping this one is better and more thorough.

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So that appointment was a total waste of time and money. Apart from having to wait over an hour after the scheduled time, all he really wanted to do was push podiatry and physio on me for my foot. I explained that I wasn't there for that and tried to get his help in prescribing something that would work on where the infection was coming from rather than just the external symptoms.  No go!!! He said that intestinal candida is too hard to diagnose and really the job for a specialist. I did persist and force him to at least order a stool test, but he insisted they don't have a test for candida in the stool. He also tried to argue that I don't need B12 shots because on the last test the levels were high. After explaining that those bloods were taken a week after my shot he reluctantly agreed to let the nurse give me the shot that was due. He wanted to wait for the results of yesterday's blood draw, but I wasnt having any of that. Mostly because I know I don't intend to go back to see him for the results. Any doctor can access them anyway. Unfortunately at present all our other doctors surgeries have closed patient lists. I'm hoping that my bariatric surgeon might be able to pull some strings for me when I see him in just under two weeks, and get me into somewhere better. Meanwhile I'll just have to continue to grin and bear the situation. Hoping like hell that the tests I've already had done will help the surgeon (or my gynaecologist who I see the week after) come up with a solution. Had a really painful night last night with the intestines and I really don't want these to continue. The doctor didn't even bat an eyelid even when I reminded him I'd had a fairly recent RNY. I felt like he could not have cared less, just wanted to make up the time he'd already lost this morning.

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Oh, Aussie, that sucks.  Doctors who don't listen are the worst.  I'm glad you're tough enough to demand what you need, and willing to leave this guy's practice to get it.  In my (admittedly US) experience, most doctors do have a network of other docs they can pull strings with - I really hope your bariatric surgeon does, too.  You've come way too far and through way too much to put up with anything less than great health now. 

I don't know if this will help you, but my autoimmune condition presented initially with a ton of itching, so I know a few tricks.  One thing that was great for me was SUPER HOT WATER - hot as I could physically bear it - applied to whatever was itching.  (luckily for me, it was mostly my hands, upper arms, and chest.) It would initially intensify the itching immensely, to the point I wanted to shout - but only for a couple of seconds.  Right after those seconds passed, I could get at least a couple of hours' peace from it.

Cold water could have some of that effect, too - but I needed to stay in cold longer, and the itching didn't stay away for as long.  I've always been better able to tolerate hot than cold anyway. 

Please keep us posted!

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I am so sorry to hear this, Aussie. I have had my fair share of crap Drs as well. Darn shame that we need a medical degree ourselves to self diagnose.

I have an over abundance of yeast internally but not sure it could be called an infection. I have sebhoreic(sp?) dermatitis that stems from it and have had it for years. Makes my scalp very itchy and scaly if I don't was with a certain shampoo every single day. Quite miserable really.

I have been searching for an answer to why I am so exhausted for years now. Finally decided it has to be my weight. Now I am wondering about the yeast.

I do hope that you find a decent Dr and also get some relief soon.

 

BTW- I do drink Braggs ACV every single day and it does help quite a bit. I just add 1 tbs to about 16 oz of water. It isn't too bad once a person gets used to it. Not sure if it would help you or not.

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Thanks for the ideas @Kio and @Readytobeme. Not sure about the water (hot or cold) yet Kio. Will need to give that some thought as I have to avoid bathing or it will spread the external infection (and the area where it's worth would require bathing. Compresses might work though. Happy to try the ACV as I could easily just replace the hot lemon water I drink with that. I hear acid in the stomach helps with candida.

Biggest problem for me right now is knowing whether this is actually a candida issue at all. It certainly seems the most likely situation under the circumstances, but it could also just be that's a temporary smokescreen for something else yet to be diagnosed. I really hope that the pathology lab manages to come up with some answers from the now three samples taken for culture. At least there will be answers from those before I see my surgeon, so we won't have to wait for him to get them done....by which time he would have already left town again. If he reckons he has to go in, or up :(,  with a scope then I really hope that can happen during the week he is here rather than waiting three months for his next visit.

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Thought I might update this. Yesterday I woke up after a bad nights sleep and very quickly realised that I now had a major candida outbreak in my mouth with all signs being that it was also in the oesophagus. I rang one of the other surgeries in town and was told that they definitely would not take any new patients, including those like me who had already been patients there. I ummed and ahhhed about what to do and eventually decided to waste most of the day by going to ER. The nurses were really understanding knowing that I had tried my own doctors surgery first. Plus they know all the doctors in town so have seen and heard it all before. Eventually I did see the emergency registrar and he  took the full history and did an examination. While he confirmed the new outbreak, (not hard given it was just a show me your tongue and you couldn't mistake it) he did say that I was actually winning the battle with all the genital candida. He reassured me that he has never seen a case of intestinal candida in an otherwise healthy patient. He has only ever seen it in already chronically ill, usually already hospitalised people. That was reassuring given he told me that to provide the normal treatment would have required it be given in the hospital each dose due to my prior allergic reaction to fluconazole. He was really clear on treatment required and the time frames for continuing that, so at least I feel better informed now. He did actually come across a couple of other issues that will need addressing but said that for now the priority really needs to be the candida infection, and that the general surgeon can deal with those things once it is resolved.

I accept that there is still a chance that it is within the GI track and as such still not being treated, but I'm taking heart that I am winning the battle with the areas that it can be seen to populate. I also feel better knowing that I have tried as best I can to get some resolution and my surgeon will not only know that when I see him in just over a week, but he'll also have access to test results taken by both the gyn and the hopeless family doctor, along with the normal blood testing that I had on Wednesday. If there's a better way to tackle what's going on, I know he'll get onto it having already gone through the appropriate testing regimes.

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Autocorrect sucks!!!!

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Ugh, I really want this to stop for you.  You've had to deal with so much!  This just sucks. 

But I am really glad you finally got in front of a doctor who was able to give you some solid information and reassurance. I really hope the treatment you're pursuing kicks in hard and fast so you can start feeling good again.  ::hugs::

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sounds awful but I am glad you are getting the help you need.....hope it clears up ASAP!!!  

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Thanks @Kio and @CheeringCJ. It was really hard for me to reconcile going to ER for something like candida. I was always brought up to believe that ER was for people who pretty much needed an ambulance to get there, which definitely isn't the case here. Unfortunately the lack of drs here made it the only real option available to me, and yesterday being a Friday really meant I needed to make up my mind or risk being in an even worse situation over a weekend. If it weren't for a new abdominal pain that seems to have reared it's head, along with getting quite laboured breathing issues, I probably wouldn't have gone.I did overhear some rather telling conversations though between nursing staff and other patients. They made it quite clear to patients of the clinic I've been attending to make sure they declare themselves unattached to any clinic when they go to ER.....which I had actually done. This is a country hospital staffed mainly by the local drs, although there are visiting surgeons, including my bariatric surgeon. The story is that if you go in and need a doctor then one will be sourced from the practice you attend...often your own Dr. If you are "unattached" then staff will call the duty Dr, which according to the nurses means there's a chance you'll get a decent Dr instead of one of the tossers from the clinic i attend. Of course if one of those "tossers" is the duty Dr you'll still get them anyway, but there's a chance you might get a good one from another clinic with a closed list. The clinic I attended changed hands at Christmas and has new drs,, with all but one of the previous drs no longer working there. Most of the patients it seems are doing what I did and declaring themselves "refugees". We don't want to stay at the clinic as the new owner is less than desirable, but we have no access to the other clinics in town.

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Wow, @Aussie Bear, that is so different than it is here in the states!  Here, we can not only chose our Dr's/clinic (and pay accordingly....my dr I have a $0 copay, I can see other Dr's on that plan for $0 also, but if I choose another, bigger plan with more participants, it's $10 or I can go anywhere and pay partial payment (like 70%), e choice is mine. Plus on nearly every corner is a medical office that you can go to instead of an ER but can handle most things an ER could (such as your issue) and they cost like $80 and an ER visit is like $150 (under my insurance....a few years ago, the plan I had let us go free!). But anyway, there are choices galore here, and I do appreciate that. 

How are you feeling?  Any relief yet?

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