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I gave blood today and had two great things happen...

CheeringCJ

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First of all, the lady who was taking information said to me “how much to you weigh?” And for once I didnt’ have to whisper (or lie!) and I just said 166 like I was “normal people” and then later I got a free T-shirt and she asked me what size and I said large,  she said “that is going to be huge on you, you look much smaller than a large!”  WHAT???  You are my new BFF, lady!!!  Never leave my side and just keep reminding me that I am MUCH SMALLER!!! :)

I think that is my weird  thing I am dealing w/ this month, is being a NORMAL person.  Part of me feels so out of place, like I’ve entered the land of the regular people and I don’t belong, yet, I’ve been given a pass to enter and see what it is like.  I don’t know if any of you are dealing w/ that or if I am just a weirdo but I just have this weird feeling of “so this is what it feels like to be normal” I am not thin or skinny and never will be but I am just normal and regular!  It is bizzzare like I am in wonderland w/ Alice and everything is different than i am used to.  I feel like I don’t belong here and will be asked to leave when i gain the weight back.   Such odd feelings!    

I ran into my surgeon on the way up from the train and he said he really doesn’t recognize me anymore when he’ sees me!  Awesome!  I reminded him that just before surgery I told him I was going to be his ideal patient and he laughed today and agreed and said “I wish they all were like you!” 

I went to my support group meeting tonight and I just want to scream to them, STOP DIETING AND CHANGE YOUR LIFESTYLE!  They are talking about eating rice cakes and whole wheat pasta w/ just a “little” Alfredo sauce...what?????  We had a NUT there tonight (tho she never works w/ Baritatric pts, just diabetics, so it was a poor choice).  She was suggesting for breakfast 2 hard boiled eggs, an apple cut up and 2 tablespoons of peanut butter...and I said “I am 8 months out but there is still NO way I could eat an entire apple and 2 eggs and PB!”  She didn’t get it anymore than the ppl at the group did!  My leader gets it. I told them I eat mostly meat at dinner....I just get my protein into me first and if I have any room left a bite or two of veggies, I don’t have a side salad like they were talking about, I don’t have room.  I just think they don’t get it.  I feel like the WLS ambassador to them all, explaining things.  Which I dont’ mind but still, they are just so clueless!



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Yay for all the positive! My iron was too low at the last blood drive I went to so I'm jealous you are out there being healthy and saving lives! 

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Yay for being normal!  And, by the way, I’m loving all your pics on the “what I wore today” thread. You are not only normal, your clothes are cute and so flattering. :wub:  And, agreed, that nutritionist clearly had no idea what she’s talking about. I literally just finished eating an apple with peanut butter right before reading your post and I’m SO full. My “food baby” belly is in full effect right now. :lol: There’s no way on earth I could eat two eggs right now. Is your support group not specifically for WLS patients?

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:lol: I can eat two eggs. And then I'm stuffed. I can eat 2 T of peanut butter. And then I'm stuffed. I can eat 2/3 of an apple. And then I'm stuffed. Trying to imagine assaulting my poor pouch with all of that at the same time!!!! :lol: Nope.

Rice cakes and pasta sound like pretty awful choices for a post-op lifestyle (well, rice cakes are horrible things and I believe no one should hate themselves so much that they make themselves eat them ever...). It sounds like going to your support group helps reinforce positive behavior by providing some negative examples - that is also a good teaching tool, so hey, whatever works!

Congrats on feeling like normal people. It's a great feeling, isn't it!

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7 hours ago, Jen581791 said:

:lol: I can eat two eggs. And then I'm stuffed. I can eat 2 T of peanut butter. And then I'm stuffed. I can eat 2/3 of an apple. And then I'm stuffed. Trying to imagine assaulting my poor pouch with all of that at the same time!!!! :lol: Nope.

That's what I was thinking! That sounds painful! 

@CheeringCJ - I totally know what you mean about realizing suddenly that you're "normal." It's very strange for me too. There are people at my job now who have only known me at this size and they struggle to imagine me as a large person. I have to show them pictures for them to realize what "I lost 105 lbs" means (well, 106 as of this morning. ha!). I've also realized that people are quicker to make jokes at the expense of fat people around me, though, which is a bummer. :(

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It's almost painful to listen to some conversations about dieting and weight loss. Everyone, of course, is an expert :rolleyes: and whatever they most recently read or heard must be true...

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12 hours ago, Jen581791 said:

 (well, rice cakes are horrible things and I believe no one should hate themselves so much that they make themselves eat them ever...).

LOL!  I was listening to (yet another!) WLS podcast the other day, and the nutritionist being interviewed described them as "essentially crispy air" and totally devoid of nutrition.  No kidding!!!  I remember those days all too well.  (I also remember eating the CARAMEL flavored rice cakes, which were crispy air with SUGAR ALL OVER IT.

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That is awesome, CJ!  I think I want that lady to be MY new BFF too!

I'm still 20 lbs over you, and I know totally what you mean.  I'm not skinny by any means, but I'm "normal" now - and I spend a lot of time thinking about it when I'm outside of my home.  It's so odd!  It's a mix of suddenly getting eye contact now (in that "oh hello you are a person and I am a person, we are people" way) and also going totally unnoticed (in that "you are not an outlier in my experience" way).  I have to keep reminding myself that I'm just not that interesting now!  Nobody is going to single you, or me, out for pity or disgust or shaming.  We're just normal folks!

I had to laugh at that description of what we should be having for breakfast.  I can just BARELY eat two scrambled eggs... sometimes.  With lots of butter so they go down smoothly.  Two hard boiled eggs would pop my pouch like a balloon.  I'm not much further out from you, and there is no way on this planet I could eat that, plus peanut butter, plus an apple!  For one thing, it wouldn't fit. And for another... even if I tried to have that for breakfast, it would be lunch time before I finished it! 

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23 hours ago, tracyringo said:

I get what you're saying and I hope you are embrassing it all, for the work you have put in !!!!

I am embracing it all and it has been fun but i can’t help but wait for the other shoe to drop. I am trying to talk myself out of that feeling but old habits die hard!

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22 hours ago, KMFL28 said:

Yay for all the positive! My iron was too low at the last blood drive I went to so I'm jealous you are out there being healthy and saving lives! 

Mine usually is as I am very anemic, but my hemoglobin had to be 12.4 to donate and it was 12.5 which was incredible for me.  My dr has me taking 2 Rxs of iron every day and there is some in my multivitamin so I am guessing that worked enough!  So i was glad to donate (summer shortage) but the bonus is 3 ETO hours for each donation! It’s a win-win fo me!

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22 hours ago, athenarose said:

Yay for being normal!  And, by the way, I’m loving all your pics on the “what I wore today” thread. You are not only normal, your clothes are cute and so flattering. :wub:  And, agreed, that nutritionist clearly had no idea what she’s talking about. I literally just finished eating an apple with peanut butter right before reading your post and I’m SO full. My “food baby” belly is in full effect right now. :lol: There’s no way on earth I could eat two eggs right now. Is your support group not specifically for WLS patients?

Awww, thanks! I dont’ think i could eat a whole apple in one sitting if you paid me (but then again, how much are you offering, i might try! Ha!). Seriously tho, what a waste to have someone who doesn’t understand bariatric patients...it is a WLS support group so why have her?  I think they just booked a NUT and didn’t know she worked at an endocrinologist office, not bariatric office.  My bari dr has 2 FT NUTs on his staff that do ONLY that (and they work for the same hospital so I am going to suggest them for next time)

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21 hours ago, Jen581791 said:

:lol: I can eat two eggs. And then I'm stuffed. I can eat 2 T of peanut butter. And then I'm stuffed. I can eat 2/3 of an apple. And then I'm stuffed. Trying to imagine assaulting my poor pouch with all of that at the same time!!!! :lol: Nope.

Rice cakes and pasta sound like pretty awful choices for a post-op lifestyle (well, rice cakes are horrible things and I believe no one should hate themselves so much that they make themselves eat them ever...). It sounds like going to your support group helps reinforce positive behavior by providing some negative examples - that is also a good teaching tool, so hey, whatever works!

Congrats on feeling like normal people. It's a great feeling, isn't it!

I felt the same way, i could do one of the 3 but not a combo and certainly not all!

they are poor choices, just fillers really, void of nutrition.  I don’t get it, i swear they are all still in dieting mode.  A WLS pt never needs to eat another rice cake again!  Someone said they saw this shrimp and veg frozen meal at aldis and what can they have it on?  One person suggested a spinach wrap....what???  I said, “on a plate!” (Haha!) and then I felt a little bad so i said you should just eat it slowly with a fork and you’ll find you’re satiated by the end but if you want to hold it and eat it, wrap it in a big piece of romaine and eat it(...geesh, do i have to teach you everything!) we could run a support group,oh wait, we do!  We support each other here!

and feeling like normal people is so awesome but at the same time so weird....like it is temporary and i will wake up in Fatsville soon!  (Have you gotten used to it yet? I hope this feeling passes.  I never want to take it for granted but i don’t want to be weirded out by it forever either)

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14 hours ago, Cardamom77 said:

CheeringCJ - I totally know what you mean about realizing suddenly that you're "normal." It's very strange for me too. There are people at my job now who have only known me at this size and they struggle to imagine me as a large person. I have to show them pictures for them to realize what "I lost 105 lbs" means (well, 106 as of this morning. ha!). I've also realized that people are quicker to make jokes at the expense of fat people around me, though, which is a bummer. :(

It is so strange, right? I haven’t shown anyone my befores, i want them to only know me normal!

And fat jokes? Uncool, I wish ppl weren’t so cruel!!!

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12 hours ago, BurgundyBoy said:

It's almost painful to listen to some conversations about dieting and weight loss. Everyone, of course, is an expert :rolleyes: and whatever they most recently read or heard must be true...

Haha!  It is funny how i want to scream the truth to them...like you just don’t get it.  You have to eat better and be active and you can succeed....give up one or both and you’ll struggle!  Ugh

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9 hours ago, Kio said:

LOL!  I was listening to (yet another!) WLS podcast the other day, and the nutritionist being interviewed described them as "essentially crispy air" and totally devoid of nutrition.  No kidding!!!  I remember those days all too well.  (I also remember eating the CARAMEL flavored rice cakes, which were crispy air with SUGAR ALL OVER IT.

I know, i am not sure what the point was, i guess it was just a filler to keep you from being hungry and stuffing yourself w/ higher calorie things...but itself had no nutrition (except the sugar...so right!). I used to get the small ones w/ cheese powder and ate them incessantly so i am sure i was over my 50 calories, they were addictive and they seemed healthy, so why not?

 

9 hours ago, Kio said:

 

That is awesome, CJ!  I think I want that lady to be MY new BFF too!

I'm still 20 lbs over you, and I know totally what you mean.  I'm not skinny by any means, but I'm "normal" now - and I spend a lot of time thinking about it when I'm outside of my home.  It's so odd!  It's a mix of suddenly getting eye contact now (in that "oh hello you are a person and I am a person, we are people" way) and also going totally unnoticed (in that "you are not an outlier in my experience" way).  I have to keep reminding myself that I'm just not that interesting now!  Nobody is going to single you, or me, out for pity or disgust or shaming.  We're just normal folks!

I had to laugh at that description of what we should be having for breakfast.  I can just BARELY eat two scrambled eggs... sometimes.  With lots of butter so they go down smoothly.  Two hard boiled eggs would pop my pouch like a balloon.  I'm not much further out from you, and there is no way on this planet I could eat that, plus peanut butter, plus an apple!  For one thing, it wouldn't fit. And for another... even if I tried to have that for breakfast, it would be lunch time before I finished it! 

 

Yeah, right?  I wanted to walk by the blood center today just to get a compliment from her...haha! 

I totally relate to what you said.  Like the part about eye contact, not the checking you out kind, but the you are a person look, not the look down at the ground and ignore the fat girl response.  We might play a part in that as i am confident enough to make eye contact too.  But I’m not getting that pity stare anymore.  Which is nice. (I love your phrasing too...the “you’re not an outlier in my experience” way!). 

I have had a spoon of PB in a pinch when i needed food fast and protein but really two teaspoons fill me completely!  I couldn’t do 2 TABLESPOONS, much less anything else and i feel like my sleeve isn’t a small one!  And you’re right, if i dragged it out all morning i could...lol! 

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24 minutes ago, Animalrescuer18 said:

I love hearing you all talking about being at or near goal! It is so encouraging to me even though I have quite a way to go! I can’t wait till I’m where you are!!!:D

You’ll be amazed how quickly it happens...you’re not far out but by next spring you will be the same way, it’s incredible.  I used to read everyone presurg and early out and i really couldn’t imagine that being ME eventually but I’m becoming it!!!

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3 hours ago, CheeringCJ said:

I am embracing it all and it has been fun but i can’t help but wait for the other shoe to drop. I am trying to talk myself out of that feeling but old habits die hard!

I go through that sometimes too, but the difference is we have a tool for life to help us and we have each other to help get through challenges in life and to find other coping skills aside from food.

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5 hours ago, tracyringo said:

I go through that sometimes too, but the difference is we have a tool for life to help us and we have each other to help get through challenges in life and to find other coping skills aside from food.

Yep, that’s what I keep telling myself. This tool works if I work it and the support is a total necessity!  

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