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Why can't we have caffeine?

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Someone asked me yesterday why can't I have caffeine. I couldn't answer them. I understand the reasoning behind carbonated drinks---but not caffeine. Please help.

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Immediately after gb caffiene can cause a healing pouch, irritation...it is an irritant. It is also acts as a diuretic...causing you to loose precious fluids at a time when you are already having enough trouble getting enough fluid. We already struggle with dehydration...esp immediately post-op. It can also cause you to feel hungry...because of its diuretic and stimulant effects.

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also, if you become dehydrated then it willl open you up to kidney problems. I have observed many people in this boat because they didnt take enough fluids.

If you are having a hard time with fluids. I have learned that Sobe Life Water Zero tastes very good and has zero carbs, zero sugar, zero calories. When I work out I always use Powerade Zero to replenish what I have lost. I also get spring water delivered to my door by Ice mountain (Nestle Water Company). I like the light tasting spring water over what I get via the tap.

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Hi all, Just thought I'd add my opinion to this no caffeine rule. My dietician has advised to avoid caffeine aswell as alcohol. The alcohol thing is not an issue because although i'm only 2 weeks out, drinking alcohol is the last thing I feel like doing. But the caffeine thing is a different matter. I wasn't a big coffee drinker before surgery, maybe 1 or 2 cups per day but I drank alot of pepsi max. Well for the week I was in hospital I suffered from severe headaches that really made my recovery extremely unpleasant. The first night I got home my sister made me a cup of coffee and without thinking I drank half of it. Well I was still wide awake at 2am and my muscles were having spasms. I decided to avoid caffeine again but the next day and following days the migraine type headache returned. I didn't think to assoicate the headaches with withdrawal from caffeine. I went to a chiroprator because I though my neck was out, neck was put back in but no relief from the headaches. These headaches were very debilitating and stopping me from concerntrating on my recovery from surgery. Then yesterday I had 2 sips of flattened pepsi max (my diet guidelines state that you can have diet soft drink as long as it's flat) and again last night was wide awake till early. So to cut my long story short, i've decided that I may going to have 1 cup of coffee a day as I can not tolerate these migraines and I can not guarentee that I will abstain from caffeine completely so I don't want to go through the withdrawals over and over again.

Anyway that's my 2 cents worth and everybody is different but I must say that this morning had my half a cup of coffee with protein powder and I do not have a headache, yeah!!!!

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Hi all, Just thought I'd add my opinion to this no caffeine rule. My dietician has advised to avoid caffeine aswell as alcohol. The alcohol thing is not an issue because although i'm only 2 weeks out, drinking alcohol is the last thing I feel like doing. But the caffeine thing is a different matter. I wasn't a big coffee drinker before surgery, maybe 1 or 2 cups per day but I drank alot of pepsi max. Well for the week I was in hospital I suffered from severe headaches that really made my recovery extremely unpleasant. The first night I got home my sister made me a cup of coffee and without thinking I drank half of it. Well I was still wide awake at 2am and my muscles were having spasms. I decided to avoid caffeine again but the next day and following days the migraine type headache returned. I didn't think to assoicate the headaches with withdrawal from caffeine. I went to a chiroprator because I though my neck was out, neck was put back in but no relief from the headaches. These headaches were very debilitating and stopping me from concerntrating on my recovery from surgery. Then yesterday I had 2 sips of flattened pepsi max (my diet guidelines state that you can have soft drink as long as it's flat) and again last night was wide awake till early. So to cut my long story short, i've decided that I may going to have 1 cup of coffee a day as I can not tolerate these migraines and I can not guarentee that I will abstain from caffeine completely so I don't want to go through the withdrawals over and over again.

Anyway that's my 2 cents worth and everybody is different but I must say that this morning had my half a cup of coffee with protein powder and I do not have a headache, yeah!!!!

The only thing that concerns me about what you said really is the soda ordeal.

I know kicking the caffeine habit will stink, but it may be for the better honestly. Just make sure you are extremely careful with liquid calories is all I'm saying. Bad habits are hard to break as we all know.

Just a thought of concern is all.

Good luck on your journey and I look forward to hearing more about it in the future! :)

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I'd also suggest that given that post gastric bypass we're all at an elevated risk for osteoporosis, that drinking anything with phosphorus (sp??) is a REALLY bad idea. (It leaches calcium from our bones)

And as has been reported by several people here- doctors have reported that though not all who drink soda will regain weight, those who gain weight are almost all soda drinkers (even diet)... so for me, it's worth not drinking.

As for the caffeine- I highly recommend preops to wean themselves off of it if you're a heavy caffeine addict before you head into surgery. As mentioned above, it's miserable to deal with the caffeine withdrawals when you're trying to heal!

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My plan allows caffeine, and I have a Latte wich I add unflavoured protein powder too almost every morning. But for the first weeks after surgery I stayed away from caffeine until my pouch recovered and more importantly until I didn't have a problem getting all my fluids in so I wouldn't get dehydrated from the coffee

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I have not been allowed to have caffeine in along time. I am one who will not sleep if I have any caffeine at all. I also had acid reflux before the surgery and could not drink caffeine or soda because of this. So, staying away has been not problem for me. I do agree that if you drink caffeine daily you need to ween yourself off it before surgery.

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My plan as well will allow up to 10 ounces of caffeine daily. I had my first cup of coffee 3 weeks out.

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I dont drink soda as advised by my doctor. But i do occasionally have an ice tea and a coffee from starbucks, but for the most part I stick to decaf so it counts as my fluid intake.

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I dont drink soda anymore, and boy do i miss it. I do drink 1-2 cups of coffee a day. I have 1 in the morning and 1 late afternoon. I have stayed hydrated and i use low fat half and half and splenda. I waited 1 month before having coffee and Ooooo what a treat! I can do without fastfood, sweets, and fried foods but i can not do w/o my coffee, my kids wouldnt even talk to me in the morning lol

I do know that coffee can cause ulcers and us GB patients have to be careful of ulcers because we can easily get one. My husband had GB 4 yrs ago and just last yr started urinating blood (sorry if TMI) we went straight to the ER and after some testing they found he had a bleeding ulcer due to GB. I hear its pretty common.

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i was told bc caffeine makes you hungry!!! and that came from my nutritionist...

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I had my first caffeine a few weeks ago. Not thinking, I got an unsweetened iced tea from McDonolds, needed something to drink, and I didnt want water. I didnt think about the caffeine...

I was moving out of my old house, into our new apartment, and all of a sudden just got cold sweats, a headache that turned into a migrane.

I never really had a thing for coffee, or really even sodas. So it wasnt a big deal to give up, but I didnt realize I was gonna have to give up tea everywhere except home.

I love tea! So, I have decaff iced tea, black tea, etc etc. I dont wanna deal with that migrane again. It was horrible!

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I started back on my tea one week out with no problems. I'm four months out and drink 2 cups of tea a day. Just don't count it as water since it is a diuretic.

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Even flat soda upsets my tummy and gives me gas. But I do drink a cup of coffee when Im in the mood (and know it wont upset my tummy). Havent had any problems.

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Crystal light sells a non caffeine ice tea flavor I just ordered some on their web site so not sure yet how it taste.

I had my first caffeine a few weeks ago. Not thinking, I got an unsweetened iced tea from McDonolds, needed something to drink, and I didnt want water. I didnt think about the caffeine...
I was moving out of my old house, into our new apartment, and all of a sudden just got cold sweats, a headache that turned into a migrane.
I never really had a thing for coffee, or really even sodas. So it wasnt a big deal to give up, but I didnt realize I was gonna have to give up tea everywhere except home.
I love tea! So, I have decaff iced tea, black tea, etc etc. I dont wanna deal with that migrane again. It was horrible!

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Hi all, Just thought I'd add my opinion to this no caffeine rule. My dietician has advised to avoid caffeine aswell as alcohol. The alcohol thing is not an issue because although i'm only 2 weeks out, drinking alcohol is the last thing I feel like doing. But the caffeine thing is a different matter. I wasn't a big coffee drinker before surgery, maybe 1 or 2 cups per day but I drank alot of pepsi max. Well for the week I was in hospital I suffered from severe headaches that really made my recovery extremely unpleasant. The first night I got home my sister made me a cup of coffee and without thinking I drank half of it. Well I was still wide awake at 2am and my muscles were having spasms. I decided to avoid caffeine again but the next day and following days the migraine type headache returned. I didn't think to assoicate the headaches with withdrawal from caffeine. I went to a chiroprator because I though my neck was out, neck was put back in but no relief from the headaches. These headaches were very debilitating and stopping me from concerntrating on my recovery from surgery. Then yesterday I had 2 sips of flattened pepsi max (my diet guidelines state that you can have diet soft drink as long as it's flat) and again last night was wide awake till early. So to cut my long story short, i've decided that I may going to have 1 cup of coffee a day as I can not tolerate these migraines and I can not guarentee that I will abstain from caffeine completely so I don't want to go through the withdrawals over and over again.

Anyway that's my 2 cents worth and everybody is different but I must say that this morning had my half a cup of coffee with protein powder and I do not have a headache, yeah!!!!

 

you can attempt to detox from the caffeine by drinking 1 cup a day and then going to half caf and then decaf.  eventually you can wean yourself off.   I only drink one cup a day of regular coffee, but after 24-36 hours with it I get a mild headache that lasts about 6 hours then is gone.  It IS possible to wean off of it, just give it some time.  The headache sucks, but if at the end of the weaning you still get one,  Tylenol helps greatly.

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My doctor was fine with coffee, it was included in clear liquids as long as it was black.  I enjoyed some my second day in the hospital.

 

Currently I only drink black coffee or water, so coffee is my treat in the am.  If I drink it in the afternoon I do struggle getting to sleep.

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I drink one cup of coffee 5 days a week at work. Sweeten with splenda and soy milk.  I didnt start until about 3 months out just to make sure I had been able to get all my water in. It can cause hunger and does make you pee more. But it helps keep me regular so the tiny bads are out weighed but the positives.

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The only thing wrong with coffee once you are all healed up and have your food routine working is it will dehyrade you. That is a side-effect of caffeine. The stomach effects are minimal with a single cup a day like sunnilove22 posts above.

 

You just have to increase your water input to compensate.

 

My surg said that after I get out about 4 months, it would be ok to drink 1 cup a day, possibly 2, as long as I drink enough water to make up for what the caffeine takes out of my body.

 

Having been so involved in strength training prior to severe joint and other problems stopped me, water is something I learned to love. Its going to be a test to only drink little sips and I am practicing. But I'm used to slamming a pint of water in like 5 seconds and larger amounts as well. Even the sippy bottle on my weight machine got long pulls on it, and I'd empty it in 10 minutes and have to stop by the sink (filtered) for a refill at intervals during workout.

 

So drinking water is not gonna be a problem, there is nothing for me to become averse to, and I love it so much it would take a lot of hate to make me averse to it. LOL.

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If I can go from 8-10 cans of Diet Coke a day to being 3 weeks without a single Diet Coke, caffeine, or any other pop, anyone can do it.  ;)  And once you get away from it entirely, you don't miss it much.  Crystal Light raspberry lemonade is my drink of choice now and I can drink that non-stop day in and day out and feel great!  I did wean myself, though.  I went to one Diet Coke a day for several weeks, maybe a month, before I stopped altogether.  It's worth it to me, I'd rather be happy and healthy than hooked on pop.

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I stopped drinking caffeine about 2 months prior to my surgery, and then when I had my official date for my surgery, I stopped drinking carbonated beverages all together.  Honestly, when I was in my early 20's I could easily down a 24 pack or more of diet soda in a day or two tops.  Easily.  I didn't drink any water, just the soda.  Then when I moved to Arizona in 2010 I had to start drinking water especially in the summer months because it was just too hot and soda wouldn't taste right when I was really thirsty.  All that would help that feeling was water.  So I started drinking more water and instead of having diet soda, I started only really drinking sprite or diet sprite with the occasional diet dew or diet pepsi.  Once I knew I was going to have this surgery I really started cutting out all soda. 


I can tell you, 2 weeks post op now, that I'm really craving a sprite.  It could even be a diet sprite for all I care.  I don't like coffee, I'm not a huge tea drinker, so when I'm wanting something besides water since water doesn't seem to want to go in my body without my body complaining non-stop about it, I've been craving a sprite.  I haven't had one, but it's been really tempting let me tell you. 

 

Believe it or not, after years of grabbing a soda when I first get up, even if it doesn't have caffeine in it, a drink of soda still "wakes me up" in the morning.  I think that's probably what I miss the most.  I really drag in the mornings now.  Oh well, a few more weeks at least and I'll try a little diet sprite, see how the carbonation does on me.  My office has said it's fine if it's tolerated but to watch how much caffeine you take in because of dehydration.  I'm not looking to get back on the caffeine boat, just the occasional I want something different diet sprite.


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I am wondering if decaf coffee is ok?  I am 6 wks post op and quit my coffee cold turkey pre surgery.  I do miss it, probably I miss my flavored creamers the most if I were to be totally honest!  I am wondering if I do decaf coffee, sugar free Torani syrup and soy or almond milk.  Any ideas or advice here would be most helpful!

 

Thanks,

V

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I have been drinking an average of half a cup a day snce about 3 months out. I can only drink coffee with half milk (soy or lactose free) and half regular coffee. I heat the milk in the microvawave first then and coffee. I do log my liquid intake and I count one cup of coffee/milk as one quarter water (i.e. 400ml cup = 100ml liquid intake)

I don't know how accurate that is but in total I take in more than 2 liters of water a day.

I keep a 0.5 liter water bottle on my desk and I try to drink it empty twice a day. This is supplimented by fruit teas and sometimes bouillon.

 

Sometimes I am inexplicably hungry so I may need to cut out the caffeine altogether or get myself some instant decaf for at work.

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I am wondering if decaf coffee is ok?  I am 6 wks post op and quit my coffee cold turkey pre surgery.  I do miss it, probably I miss my flavored creamers the most if I were to be totally honest!  I am wondering if I do decaf coffee, sugar free Torani syrup and soy or almond milk.  Any ideas or advice here would be most helpful!

 

Thanks,

V

My NUT suggested drinking a cup of coffee to help with some severe constipation issues early out.  I now drink decaf for the most part (usually one big mug in the morning) but I have no issue in a regular cup now and again.

 

Plans differ - mine is ok with a cup of regular coffee but I'd recommend talking with your NUT/Surgeon about it.

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