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What kind of problems can develop from not taking vitamins daily?

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i think i need more vitamin A ... a few months ago my nails were a nice length and pretty strong now they are all broken and split except for one (i guess that one will break soon too)

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Thanks for sharing this info I copied this and put it in my WLS binder for future ref... It is greatly appreciated . Thanks and have a great journey and day.

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Thanks for sharing this info I copied this and put it in my WLS binder for future ref... It is greatly appreciated . Thanks and have a great journey and day.

Something else that's really worth printing out are pages 7 and 8 of this document. It's the current asbs.org recommendations (of 200% RDA) for vitamins and minerals: http://www.asbs.org/Newsite07/resources/bgs_final.pdf

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Great post! I do take my vitamins for the most part. I quit taking my Iron + C because I was staying constipated. I am 2 1/2 yrs. post-op and was just diagnosed with osteoporosis a couple of weeks ago. I am the youngest person I know to have it. I am sure there are more out there though. I just went today for my IV Reclast. I sure hope it helps. So everyone please remember your vitamins!

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Hey peeps. :) I'm blatantly stealing this post from another WLS forum, but it's too good of info not to share.

So deficiencies in the following can result in:

B1 or Thiamin

- irreversible neuromuscular disorders

- permanent defects in learning and short-term memory

- coma (aww.. this isn't so bad..)

- death (Nothing worth worrying about, right?)

B9 or Folate (Folic Acid)

- forgetfulness

- irritability

- hostility

- paranoid behaviors

B12 or Cobalamine

- neurologic sumptoms

- numbness and tingling of extremeties

- difficulty walking

- memory loss

- disorientation

- megalobalstic anemia

- permanent neural impairment

- extreme delusions

- hallucinations

- overt psychois

+ Permanent damage can occur if treatment doesn't start soon enough!

Calcium

- chronic low intake creates metabolic bone disease presenting as

- osteoporosis

- osteomalacia

- hypoparathyroidism

- combo of above

- muscle cramping

- hypotension

- bone pain

Vitamin D

- rachitic tetany

- mucle pain and spasms

- weakness

- bone pain

- decrease in daily calcium absorption

- rickets (osteomalacia)

- osteoporosis

- concentrations in blood greater than or equal to 80nmol/L, there was a 50% reduction in colorectal cancer rates

- concentrations in blood greater than or equal to 50nmol/L, there was a 50% reduced risk of prostate cancer

- risk for type 1 diabetes increased dramatically in vitamin D deficient children

- higher circulating levels of vitamin D linked to a significantly lower Multiple Schlrosis risk

Iron

- anemia

- fatigue

- hair loss

- feeling cold

- pagophagia (constant desire to eat ice -- pica)

- decreased immune function

Zinc

- decreased sense of smell

- altered taste

- poor wound healing

- poor appetite

- hair loss

- low libido

- lethargy

Vitamin A

- problems with skin and mucous membranes

- dry hair

- broken nails

- increased risk of infections

- linked to anemia and iron absorption

- ophthalmologic consequences such as night blindness

I was getting ready to print this out and was wondering if there were other things to add to it before printing since this is an older thread?

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My labs have always come back "normal". However just two months ago I was sitting in my arthritis docs office and read in a Arthritis magazine that if you have been on certain depression meds long term it can cause osteoporosis. I immediately told my pcp and went for a bone density study. I unfortunately have osteoporosis at the age of 35. I am not sure if it is due to my vitamin D, and calcium or if it's because of the Cymbalta. I have been on various depression meds since I was 19 y/o. I have been having burning sensations and pain radiating from my shoulders down to my fingers since I was about 6 mo. post-op. I also have burning and tingling in my feet. I have been to numerous specialist and no one can figure out why this is happening. I am unable to have a MRI done because of a device I have in my head to treat migraines. However; I just found out two months ago that it was not approved by the FDA so I will be having it taken out soon. I feel that having gastric bypass has only caused me more problems in the end. I am just so frustrated because no one can figure out what is wrong with me.

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My labs have always come back "normal". However just two months ago I was sitting in my arthritis docs office and read in a Arthritis magazine that if you have been on certain depression meds long term it can cause osteoporosis. I immediately told my pcp and went for a bone density study. I unfortunately have osteoporosis at the age of 35. I am not sure if it is due to my vitamin D, and calcium or if it's because of the Cymbalta. I have been on various depression meds since I was 19 y/o. I have been having burning sensations and pain radiating from my shoulders down to my fingers since I was about 6 mo. post-op. I also have burning and tingling in my feet. I have been to numerous specialist and no one can figure out why this is happening. I am unable to have a MRI done because of a device I have in my head to treat migraines. However; I just found out two months ago that it was not approved by the FDA so I will be having it taken out soon. I feel that having gastric bypass has only caused me more problems in the end. I am just so frustrated because no one can figure out what is wrong with me.

Holly - I might be way off the mark but do you have copies of your bloodwork?

Peripheral neuropathy (burning, tingling arms, legs and feet) are classic symptoms of vitamin B12 deficiency.

The US "normal" range is 200 and 600 pg/mL (or there abouts) but that's low compared to some European countries and Japan where you'd be considered deficient with anything lower than 500-550 mg/mL.

And don't forget - what's normal for everyone else, might not be normal for you.

Having been down the road of B12 deficiency, I keep my level at around 1,000 mg/mL.

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I was getting ready to print this out and was wondering if there were other things to add to it before printing since this is an older thread?

Serena - I'd assume that we run the risk of becoming deficient in anything. But a couple of things not on that list are (you can get information on symptoms by Googling "...whatever.... deficiency symptoms":

Copper

Selenium

Vitamin K

Vitamin E

Vitamin B2 (Riboflavin)

Vitamin B6 (Pyridoxine)

Magnesium

Protein (not a vitamin or mineral but we can become deficient).

This is a list of bloodwork I get done:

CMP

Lipid Profile

CBC w/ diff

B12

Bili-Direct

Ferritin

Iron/TIBC

Magnesium

RBC Folate

Thiamine

Uric Acid

Vitamin D, 25-OH

PTH

TSH

Copper

Zinc

Remember - calcium blood levels only show the calcium in your blood - not the calcium in your bones. For that you need a DEXA scan and it's something I'd recommend to every one and ideally, the first one should be done prior to surgery.

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My ex, being an alcoholic, stopped all his supplements....he nearly had a heart attack with his potassium being low, STOPPED walking cuz of his B vitamins were non-existent. Finally, after 3 years of needing a walker, he listened to his doctors and is getting monthly B-12 shots....3 months of getting back, he can walk without help....still not out of the woods with the other stuff....he's only 38 and this has gone on for 6 years.....

I was completely fine on my labs for teh first 3 years with just twice a day vitamins....now, I have trouble keeping them all in proper levels....I've had to change my supplementation around and now take something 5 times a day to get it all in. I have 15 bottles of stuff vs the 3 I had at the beginning.

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Vitamins....Vitamins....Vitamins....Vitamins....Vitamins....are a must !!!!! break them in half if need be to swallow. And do so for better absorbtion.

PLEASE take your viatamins.

I take regular vitamins, ( capsules/tablets, and I take once time a day, a liquid vitamin, by " YOUNGEVITY" once a day as well. Liquids are absorbed much better and quicker with those of G.Bypass. I get mine from:

http://www.wwfar.com/

About $40.00 a month for a bottle. This particular brand is derived from plants so the vitamins are "naturall". I also drink a pure protein drink called, " Isopure " , choclate. it is pricey, but GNC has them on sale periodically. I stock up then with at least three-four months. Easily absorbed, and naturall protein. Choclete flavor which I use lactose free , fat free milk. YUMMY, ice cold, ( no ice), like a milk shake. I mix it with a verticle hand mixer.

I am 4 years post-op. I lost 180 lbs in 1 year. In year two I gained 65 lbs. Then now year three I lost 45 of the 65 I gained. Discipline. PLEASE do not exceed the 1 cup of food limit. And always wait, alway, for two-three hours before eating again.

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How long do you think it takes for this kind of stuff to set in. UGH! I am over a year out and haven't taken a vitamin or calcium in over 6 months. I have no symptoms. On that note. I eat a pretty balanced diet. I am currently doing research for my human biology class on calcium absorption in the bypass patient. It just doesn't make sense that we can absorb it from food but we can a suppliment. Any thoughts or info?

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Thank you. I have such a hard time trying to remember to take my daily supplements.
 

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Hi There Everyone! (Hi Cinwa!)

Great Post Sherry!

My doctor advised me of a great vitamin supplement called Floradix which can be bought in Hollands & Barratts (100% herbal) It covers almost all vits and it is available in liquid form as o had been struggling to keep down the bulky pills.. I also got given sometime called Spatone 100% iron water supplements which allows iron consumption without the constipation effect some suffer from.. I can say it is working well for me so far.. Havent been using it for long enough to recommend but thought it was worth mentioning to see who else has tried any of them and welcome feedback.. :)

P's. I am 3/4 week post op..

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Just a note to confirm what lack vits do- i have perm nerve damage in brain/arms and legs. I have my vits above normal and will keep them up but the damage is done. So important to take

them.

Awesome post

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I met a lady that had to have open heart surgery because of vitamin deficency. I just think back to that whenever I get lazy about taking my supplements.

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My daughter had RNY 2 years ago. 2 months after surgery she became very ill requiring 2 admissions to hospital. She developed jittery eyes and neuropathy. They never checked her B1 Thiamin.

Neurologists ended up taking over and at first ordered MRI to rule out MS. It wasn't it was Beriberi disease from Thiamin deficiency!

The neuro symptoms endured for months. Still some lingering symptoms 1 year later.

So take vitamins and get checked regularly. My bariatric team said my daughters case never would have happened with their regimen.

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Thank You for posting this:)

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Thank you, I now need to get some iron.

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Thanks

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My husband had a gastric bypass 10 years ago. They told him just take flintstone vitamins. Every year he gets blood checked etc... Ths December he was hospitalized with they thought a mini stroke. After seeing many neurologists come to find out. He had a VITAMIN B deficiency. So he gets B-12 shots now untl his level comes up. In my Pre- op prep we learned a lot about how you must take BARACTRIC VITAMINS ONLY. I guess ten years ago we didn't know this? Well we didn't . He now is taking what I take.

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I have such a hard time taking mine. I just had my bloodwork done so we will see.

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I have such a hard time taking mine. I just had my bloodwork done so we will see.

You're newly post-op babe - some vitamin/mineral deficiencies might not show up so soon.

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This is some really scary stuff! I am going to really be diligent about taking my vitamins as instructed. I didn't put my body through this just to develop some neurological disorder, or worse, due to negligence in taking my vitamins/minerals. Thank you for posting!

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I am a year out!! I don't take all my vitiaman as I should but I just really started hitting it hard?"! Do

You think it's to late ??after reading this it scares me!!since it's been a year do I have

Time to fix not talking all my vitamins? Also my period is all out of wack !! It's about

Every two weeks, it's heavy and crampy ! Also does anyone have teeth pain? Is that

Some problem cause I have not take calcium ??

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