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#1 sherry7

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Posted 28 December 2008 - 11:32 AM

Have clothing sizes changed over the years?

Currently, I'm wearing a size 12 petite jean...Lee Rider brand. They're starting to get roomy around the waist, so I'll be in a 10 petite pretty soon.

Yesterday, I took on the huge task of cleaning out my walk-in closet. Most of the stuff was too big of course, and it got boxed up for Goodwill. However, I found a box of clothes (which were at least 12-15 years old) with pants and shorts in the 13, 14, 15, and 16 sizes. I tried on most of them, and none of them came remotely close to fitting me...most of them were several inches too small around the waist.

I've heard about "vanity sizing" before. I just read this article, 0 is the new 8 - The Boston Globe, and this particular quote jumped out at me: "As a result, what was a size 8 in the 1950s had become a 4 by the 1970s and 00 today. The size labels just keep getting smaller, so it's no surprise they're diving below zero now, Ainsworth said."
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Posted 28 December 2008 - 11:37 AM

Yep.. my size 14 petite jeans are getting loose, but I have several pairs of size 18 jeans from back in the 1980's and are severely tight..

Really kind of silly, if you ask me. I wish women's pants were sold like men's, by waist & length with further sizing by full cut or narrow cut or what have you..

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Posted 28 December 2008 - 11:41 AM

Yep.. my size 14 petite jeans are getting lose, but I have several pairs of size 18 jeans from back in the 1980's and are severely tight..

Really kind of silly, if you ask me. I wish women's pants were sold like men's, by waist & length with further sizing by full cut or narrow cut or what have you..


Yes, I would love to have men's sizing for pants. I'm 5'5", but my legs are super short in comparison to my body. Even the petite length pants are too long sometimes.

I know that Levi jeans used to be sold that way for women (like when I was in high school!), but I don't know if they still are.

I'm still not completely finished with that darned closet...spent about 5 hours working on it yesterday, and I did make a lot of progress though. :)
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Posted 28 December 2008 - 11:52 AM

I got married in a size 9 dress in 1956 when I weighed 125 lbs. I am your height. Of course I have no smaller clothes to speak of to test out when the time comes. If I was to fit into an equivalant size now like you are saying I am afraid I would gain weight from my swelled head (ego).
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Posted 28 December 2008 - 11:59 AM

I don't think sizes are accurate. I went to Macy's the other day and bought a pair of jeans that are 9\10's.juniors. That just doesn't seem right?! Agreed, it is nice for the head!!!!! :o)
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Posted 28 December 2008 - 12:09 PM

I agree sizes have changed throughout the years. My sister-in-law gave me a pair of jeans with tags on she found from a few years ago. They were 24 my size this spring. They didn't fit me at all. Even after losing 54 pounds since June I am still wearing a size 24, but still can't wear those jeans. I am really bumming about not going down a size in pants. I know I have lost weight in both my bust and my feet though. Two places I really didn't want to. Oh well, hopefully when I can start doing more than walking (3 more weeks) I can do something about my waist. :)
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Posted 28 December 2008 - 12:32 PM

ya sizes are def different then they used to be. I now weigh around 150 and am 5'7" and I am in a size 6 pants and S/M tops, some with some room too. The last time i weighed what i do now was prob when i was 16 and i could swear i was an 11/12 !! lol
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Posted 28 December 2008 - 02:35 PM

Have clothing sizes changed over the years?

Currently, I'm wearing a size 12 petite jean...Lee Rider brand. They're starting to get roomy around the waist, so I'll be in a 10 petite pretty soon.

Yesterday, I took on the huge task of cleaning out my walk-in closet. Most of the stuff was too big of course, and it got boxed up for Goodwill. However, I found a box of clothes (which were at least 12-15 years old) with pants and shorts in the 13, 14, 15, and 16 sizes. I tried on most of them, and none of them came remotely close to fitting me...most of them were several inches too small around the waist.

I've heard about "vanity sizing" before. I just read this article, 0 is the new 8 - The Boston Globe, and this particular quote jumped out at me: "As a result, what was a size 8 in the 1950s had become a 4 by the 1970s and 00 today. The size labels just keep getting smaller, so it's no surprise they're diving below zero now, Ainsworth said."



Sherry,
Yesterday I did the same thing. I am 208 and into (down from size 22 in 8 weeks) 18's and I can zip 16's but they are snug. I carry most of my weight in my tummy area, so sizing is tough for me. I'm 5'3" and things that fit in the waist are baggy in the butt and tight.

Now I have a question for you - How do you feel about giving the clothes away, or just plain getting rid of them? I am a bit panic stricken, myself. How do you feel?
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Posted 28 December 2008 - 02:45 PM

.........Now I have a question for you - How do you feel about giving the clothes away, or just plain getting rid of them? I am a bit panic stricken, myself. How do you feel?


It's weird that you asked me that Lizzie, since I was just thinking about it recently. As I went through my closet yesterday, I had some feeling of regret for clothes that I really liked and don't fit me anymore. Yes, that's totally weird! :P I mean, I've went from a size 24, and I'm currently in a 12. Why would I regret wearing a much smaller size? :confused:

I thought about it, and came up with this....currently I don't have a lot of clothes that fit. Since I am still losing, I've bought a minimal amount of stuff. I think that when I get to my goal weight and buy more clothes and have more variety, I'll be fine with it.

But, I'm definitely getting rid of stuff...I've actually boxed up stuff before to donate, but not to this extent. I refuse to keep clothes that are too big for me, because I know how easy it is to regain weight and "grow" back into them. Believe me, if I have to start re-buying BIGGER sizes, that would definitely wake me up. :D
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Posted 28 December 2008 - 06:58 PM

Im thinking of taking mine to a consignment shop or even EBAY them .Ive still got a closet full with tags on in size 18 . I thought about getting the suits altered professionally but it wasn't cost effective . Im in 14 and some 12s and i still feel FAT ...:rolleyes:

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Posted 28 December 2008 - 07:03 PM

Im thinking of taking mine to a consignment shop or even EBAY them .Ive still got a closet full with tags on in size 18 . I thought about getting the suits altered professionally but it wasn't cost effective . Im in 14 and some 12s and i still feel FAT ...:rolleyes:

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Posted 28 December 2008 - 07:18 PM

Yeah, I've got about 30-40 pieces from Coldwater Creek that still have the price tags on them. What can I say? I found a super sale and over bought! :o I've loath to donate those, and will probably consign them or list them on eBay.


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Posted 28 December 2008 - 07:24 PM

I have some old clothes from highschool that I kept around for the memory.

Looks like i'll be able to wear those memories proudly soon and I can't wait!

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Posted 29 December 2008 - 09:35 AM

Any of Ya'll that decides to Ebay off some items, please let us know.

I'm so tired already of wearing droopy clothes but can't justify spending lots for new stuff.

I'm currently in 20's moving on to 18's soon. :D
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Posted 29 December 2008 - 10:21 AM

Vicki,

For the cost of time and gas you could come get half a closet full of clothes from me! I still haven't gotten rid of any clothes since surgery. :P

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Posted 29 December 2008 - 11:21 AM

Hey Angel

I have been thinking about a road trip, but would prolly have to bring the lil one with me if thats ok. Email me your address again so I can get directions and we will try to set up a date. I'm off work the rest of this week, but have a Dr appointment tomorrow and then after that it would have to be on a Saturday. Oh, btw went to Bingo Friday night and me and a gf hit 350$
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Posted 29 December 2008 - 11:21 AM

You all should do a clothes swap, just pay shipping.

I have some size 22 jeans that are almost falling off of me after my liquid diet and as soon as they are unwearable, I'm burning them.
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Posted 29 December 2008 - 11:35 AM

Soooo ... if clothes sizes have changed like you say ... and 9 months ago I was wearing size 26 Lane Bryant jeans ...
Then, uh ... does that REALLY mean I was wearing size 1,024???? :eek:

So I'm feelin' kinda groovy in my size 9's these days ... does that mean I'm currently closer to a true size 26? :eek:

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Posted 29 December 2008 - 04:19 PM

Soooo ... if clothes sizes have changed like you say ... and 9 months ago I was wearing size 26 Lane Bryant jeans ...
Then, uh ... does that REALLY mean I was wearing size 1,024???? :eek:

So I'm feelin' kinda groovy in my size 9's these days ... does that mean I'm currently closer to a true size 26? :eek:

This bites ...


After reading this thread yesterday I pulled out a jean skirt I bought 10 years ago that was a size 16--now I take a 14/16 pants depending on style. The waist on the skirt from 10 years ago is 36 inches--my waist is now 39 so I still have 3 inches before it fits. When I was younger I never weighed over 130 and always took a size 12/14. Now I weigh 182 and am only 5'5" and can already fit into a 14/16--makes no sense! I don't think the tops changed drastically though. The tops from 10 years ago fit and matter of fact are kinda big :D!
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Posted 29 December 2008 - 06:17 PM

Vanity sizing is a very important thing to keep in mind when thrift shopping, too. You may run across something that looks like it would fit but is size 18 or whatever, take a good look at it. It may be very high quality clothing that is like a 10 year old silk jacket, for instance. Eyeballing the clothing is the key, so you have to get real honest with your mind's eye. It's also mandatory that you start losing the stigma thing with sizing. If it's a beautiful Chaus wool and silk suit from 20 years ago but reads size 20....take a good look at it, it may now fit you wonderfully. I know what I weigh, I know what current size I weigh, and they can call it 1094 (good one, Julie!) for all I care if it's well made, well maintained and fits me swell. The size stuff will level out at a couple of years, as your confidence builds. Just remember that if Marilyn Monroe was still alive and her normal weight today, she would be wearing a 14...maybe she did wear a 1094, and that, along with Bobby and Jack not wanting a 'menage a Kennedy' anymore got to her....poor tortured soul.

It just seems really odd to read of someone wearing a size 10 and still over 200lbs, doesn't it? At least it seems to go all the way down...I can wear pre-teen grrl's size 14-16, and boy's size L (XL is too big!). Guess boys got tired of that horrible 'husky' label, too.

A clothing swap can easily be accomplished with the use of a digital camera and good descriptions. Do it on a 'pay it forward' basis--the one with the oversized 18's ships to the 22 on her way down. The 14 sends her stuff to the 18, and the one with the 10/12's sends hers down the road to the 14. Those of us who have already toppled under the double digit sizes won't have such a good outcome, but then we can go to the thrifts and buy 'new' used clothes. And we can score big with clearance clothes that have been wonderfully reduced because the average woman 'still' wears a 12/14 :eek:! I have seen brand new 4's and 3's in retail stores that are just waiting for our eager, newly slim bodies to slip into at prices lower than used clothes in the same size range.

It's a fantastic game to play, all the while knowing that whatever the size, vanity or not, we will most likely not be wearing it in a few months! And I haven't read much about people having to go back up the scales into bigger sizes.

As I think about this more, why couldn't we use the classifieds section to describe what we have, brand, if any, condition, approximate age (to know how vain the size is) and just ship those bad daddies round the world! We would want to know season of clothes, their 'eyeballed size, etc. The recipient would reimburse the shipping costs of their new clothes, and relist any of the newly acquired clothes for someone else's possible use. This part feels like it needs some work....but this is not impossible, I believe.

If the clothing being internally exchanged is brand new or especially fancy shmancy, monetary supplements may need to be worked out between the two parties individually. I know this sounds like a well thought out business plan, but I think it's such a cool concept (I would like to be a personally shopper or a buyer, can you tell?) I would love to have a Virtual vintage wear store, or just a cool, funky used/donated clothing shop--I don't know fashion stuff at all, but I have great taste and seem to be pretty good at picking stuff up that fits people better than they ever thought they would, and I love browsing from store to store making mental notes of great stuff that is worth actual muh-knee. But, we don't have that. Since I desperately need distraction, I maybe could organize a list of who has what sizes, notes about what you have, sizes, styles as well as what you are looking for for yourself. If y'all send me that info, I will work to make a compiled catalog of who has what/who wants what.

I would suggest donating clothing that has been well worn. When you've got that receipt in your hand, for you to price your own contribution, don't be shy! Gently worn women's office clothing is desperately needed, especially since every so often a heavy woman will get a management position these days!:cool:

But, folks, this would be a way for us to lighten our load of unworn clothing, get new clothing that fits us, not have to lay out a wad of dead presidents, and be able to 'shop' in the privacy of our own bedrooms. The money stuff and who pays whom definitely needs work, but VPA, Darlin--you know how to set up a real store, and I'm sure there are some well skilled folks out there who could make suggestions, throw out a template, whatever.

Filling this idea out into an actual viable business venture wouldn't be hard at all, I think....but I need to think on it some more. In the meantime, if anyone has experience or info regarding turning this into a small business, I'm very open to suggestions--I have no ego about setting this up and am grateful for any and all intel you can give me.

Am I nuts? Or could I actually open the virtual doors of "Out of the Closet"?

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