Siepie

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Hi Everyone,

I'm looking for some general advice and feedback on gastric banding. I am currently at 244 pounds, 178cm with a BMI of 35.4,type II diabetes (diagnosed in the last 12 months) and elevated blood pressure. I've done a bunch of reading online and I think that gastric banding may be an option for me. I'm looking to have the surgery done by Dr Dillemans in Belgium - I'm Australian but living in Ireland, the research back home suggests that a lap band would be enormously helpful in getting my weight and other health problems under control but when I spoke to my GP here in Ireland he said I was foolish and to just try and continue to lose weight

I will keep reading all the great posts here but any advice or insight you could give me into the gastric banding process and results would be greatly appreciated!

Siepie:)

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Welcome to the Family :)

You're asking for some more info on the LapBand and unfrotunately I had the RNY so can't be of much help there but I can point you in the right direction ;)

Firstly - have you spoken to Dr D yet? Did you know that you can arrange your surgery through him direct and that you do not have to use an agency?

Use this e-mail address and write to him: bruno.dillemans@azbrugge.be

Also have a look at this Thread I started:

Welcome all Newbies to the TT Forum

See specifically the thread about:

Surgical Methods - a few of the different Weight Loss Surgeries explained - this is actually from Dr D's website and explains the different surgeries.

Good luck and let me know if there is anything else I can help with.

XXX

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It is his site but if you go direct then you might save a couple of 100 pounds ;) - contact him via e-mail and ask - perhaps he prefers you to go through obesitycare for them to take care of the admin??

Tell him Gwen; his Little South African referred you ;)

XXX

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Siepie - sounds like you are on the low end of BMI to qualify BUT you also have 2 extenuating circumstances that should put you over the top. Without knowing more other than you are a woman -- it sounds like you need to lose at least 100 lbs. That is not easy to do on regular diets without putting it all back on again months or a few years later.

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Hi

Mr Kerrigan in Liverpool does banding and RNY privately at University Hospital, Aintree if that helps as well. I think there is someone in Ireland as well. I'll have a look and come back to you.

As already said your BMI is under the surgery recommendation of 40+ but they will consider if you have at least 2 co morbidities. I have a bypass myself but my good friend Mel had a band and is now looking at a DS or bypass as her band has caused her problems with her gullet, can't spell the other word, lol:p Weight loss also tends to be slower with a band.

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Hi Gwen, Galaxy and Der,

Gwen - I dropped Dr Dillemans an email with your name in it Gwen, I've not heard anything back from him as of yet. Hopefully he will get back to me, otherwise I will make further enquiries with obesitycare

The more research I do the more I think banding may be the way to go for me.

Galaxy/Der - my current BMI is 35.8 which with two co-morbidities should mean I am within the parameters for consideration for surgery. I have type II diabetes and high blood pressure. There was a private cosmetic surgery clinic in Dublin doing banding but it was

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Hi Siepie

I have asked Olivia (fatalbeauty) to ask Dr D to get back to you on the e-mail you've sent him. She is meeting with him on Tuesday so just hang in there - he'll get back to you shortly.

Please send me a copy of the e-mail you've sent him (if you feel comfortable with that) at gwenpowell2007@googlemail.com

XXX

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Hi Gwen,

I got an email back from Dr Dillemans today, I also got an email from Marc his assistant with all the details - Dr Dillemans has offered to call me which Im guessing is a good thing to do so I can discuss with him the options. I have a question - do they try and steer you towards having a RNY as opposed to the band?

Thanks again for all your help Gwen, its much appreciated!

Siepie

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Siepie

I have not had any problems with hair loss but I know some people do.

Conceiving - with the RNY you have to wait at least a year after your op before trying, with the band you have to be de-filled during pregnancy to allow all the nutrients through, thats something apparently they insist upon so a fellow bander tells me. Loads of women have had good pregnancies with the RNY, no problems as long as you keep up your protein intake which obviously can be done in various ways. You would also get extra attention throughout as well from your Dr and midwife as a precaution.

A friend of mine came home today after having a lap RNY and she is feeling great, tad sore but waiting for the year and then trying to conceive. Thats one of the reasons she wants to lose weight.

When you have surgery abroad you obviously have to look for a local surgeon that will fill a band and this can be expensive. I know that my surgeon charges

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Hi Siepie

I'm so glad you've heard from them - you're sure to save some money this way! ;)

Dr D will only steer you towards the RNY if he thinks that that will be the more successful procedure for you.

When I went through the agency, they sent me a medical history form to complete and some of the questions were about my eating habits (large portions/sweet stuff/fatty foods/etc) and I think the answers to those questions combined with how much you need to lose makes a big difference in which procedure would be more successful.

If Marc sends you this form to complete be as honest as you can as Dr D will base his advice on the answers and then listen to him - he has done many of these (8000 or so) and he knows what he's doing :)

Good luck and please keep me posted :D

XXX

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Hi Siepie

Welcome to the forum!

I'm afraid I'm not going to be much good for advice on the band as I had the bypass myself.

I can however really recommend Dr D - I was one of the first ones on here that went through him and 18 months later I am doing great. I have had a little issue with hair loss but nothing noticeable - it's just a little thinner.

I believe it's not so much of an issue with the band as you don't have the malabsorption issues that you get with the bypass.

Just wanted to say best of luck with your journey and if I can help at all feel free to chat me.

;o)

Sheree.

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Hi, Please dont mind the irish doctor they are still in the dark ages here for this type of medicine!! It really annoys me that people think try a little harder etc for 'natural' weight loss!! Too be honesty there are surgens here that carry out the op's but go to the master which i feel is Dr 'D'!!!

Contact privatley Direct Healthcare were rubbish for me

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Hi Gwen,

Both Dr Dillemans and Marc sent emails, Marcs contained lots of the information and forms, Dr Dillemans was one offering to call to discuss options. My preference is still for banding but maybe RNY will be the better option. Realistically I have probably 40kg to lose to be within the healthy weight range, I think that is achievable through banding but Dr Dillemans is the expert so I will see what he has to say as well.

Im off to the US in March for a week so any surgery is going to have to wait till after that, Marc is saying that there is a 6 week lead time which seems pretty good. Ive got the raise the issue with my GP here as well as whatever option I choose will have an effect on my care for my diabetes. Anytime Ive raised surgery as a possible tool to assist me Ive been looked at like Im insane!

Hope you are having a great weekend, its snowing here in Limerick!

Siepie

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Hi Lindsay,

Good to meet someone else from Ireland! It seems to be a bit of a taboo subject here?? Back home in Australia weight loss surgery is promoted by nearly all GPs with patients who have significant weight issues. My diabetes specialist keeps telling me to try that bit harder to lose but after 20 odd years at this caper Im confident in saying that trying that bit harder doesnt work!

Did you have RNY or the band?

Siepie

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Hi Sheree,

Good to meet you! You have some fabulous results there in your pictures! It's proving to be a challenging decision to make, Ive lots of research here from Australia that says that banding would be the best option for me in relation to my diabetes - to be honest the idea of them cutting up my stomach frightens the life out me!

The hair thing is a real issue for me as well, I wasnt blessed with decent hair to begin with, its thin now, I dont think I could stand to lose any more!

Thanks so much for your advice, I know everyones experiences are different but they are all contributing to me making an informed decision!

Siepie

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..... things will fall into place for you :)

I'm glad you're making progress and thanks for keeping us posted :D

XXX

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Hiya, I had the RYN lap, to me i needed it my bmi was 47/48 which meant that the band was not really the option. Its awful here for this type of surgery, GP's either treat you like a freak or your their new experiment!!

Myself and two of my friends had the op and we are all doing fine, but to be honest if i was relying on medical support i'd be lost!! do what is right for you and put your faith in Dr D he is the master of this!!! As for traveling to get fills yep thats an issue esp if you go home to Oz but i am sure Dr D can release you so another surgeon can look after it for you!!! Anyho let me know how your doing!!

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Hiya, I had the RYN lap, to me i needed it my bmi was 47/48 which meant that the band was not really the option. Its awful here for this type of surgery, GP's either treat you like a freak or your their new experiment!!

Myself and two of my friends had the op and we are all doing fine, but to be honest if i was relying on medical support i'd be lost!! do what is right for you and put your faith in Dr D he is the master of this!!! As for traveling to get fills yep thats an issue esp if you go home to Oz but i am sure Dr D can release you so another surgeon can look after it for you!!! Anyho let me know how your doing!!

Hi there-nice to find the Irish "thread" Hope you are doing well after your op.

I have been reading the lapbandtalk site for months but have(one the advice of 2 surgeons)decided to go for the bypass instead of band(eeek!I wake up with panic attacks)here in Cork.There is a new Obesity surgeon appointed to the Bons Secours Hospital.I am booked in to be done on 2nd July with a 2 week liquids only diet beforehand.I am excited but terrified at he same time.My bmi is 42 but I have no medical problems except arthritis so Dr thinks I am a good risk.

Just wondering Lindsey a few questions

1.He has told me that I will be weak from lack of food for 3 months which is the biggest shock time to the body.I'm finding it hard to decide how much time off work I should take.I only work 2/3 days per week but its standing and walking.

2.Also have a weeks holiday planned end sept with Mother(I will be the one hauling suitcases)should I cancel that?

3.Does the dumping thing happen EVERY time you eat ANYTHING sweet or can you eat,say, a square of chocolate?/boiled sweet?

4.How FATIGUED are you-he has warned me of HUGE fatigue that just washes over you and you have to rest far more?

5.Did you need a catheter?

6.Can you eat anything now or are you finding certain foods disagree?

I couldnt agree more about the GPs.Mine is awful she keeps repeating the mortality stats when I go in-I am seriously thinking of changing(after 25 years)as she is just not supporting me.

One last question-what did you tell your friends(I have told my 4 best friends and my sister who are all trustworthy)I dO NOT want to tell anyone else-just dont know what to tell boss etc(bad back?)

I would really appreciate your feedback, since you are so newly operated on-

Sue

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Hi Siepie

How are you getting on - have you spoken to Dr D yet? Have you booked your opp and which one are you going for?

Love hearing from you

XXX

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Hi all

I am getting the gastric band done in april the 21st in brussels, have it all booked and paid for, costin me 5680, which is cheap, compared to the one in Dublin, which was 10k, i think the surgeon aint working there anymore coz he didnt get paid? i dunno..

did anyone get it done here in brussels?

a bit nervous, a bit scared and a bit excited all in one.

i am 5"10" and 22.5 stone!! horrible i know, i have tried everything possible and think this is the last resort. have looked it up on the net, hence finding this site and ther is mostly good things to be said about it!

can someone be my buddy when it comes to this so i can at least relate to someone who has it done.

my email is lgarde@hotmail.com

not sure if they let ya post the email address, but what the hell

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Hi Lindsay,

Have you found the site Lap Band Talk Forum - The largest forum for Lap Band Surgery Discussion and Lap Band Surgery Support and go to thread "hi....nikki from Ireland"theres a whole heap of lIrish lapband people there.I dont want to upset your plans BUT (I had researched all this as I was gung ho to have it also but changed to rny which is right FOR ME)there is a Belgian Dr recently coming to Dublin called Chris de bruyne(google him) and he does the op for about 3400 in Belgium-VERY good reports of his thoroughness.You need to consider how easy it will be for you to get fills (and De-fills if you have a complications)back and forth on a plane isn't ideal and Chris is coming to Dublin about once a month.He replies to email quite quickly-it may be obesityassist.com: The Leading Obesity Site on the Net or something like that.

Hope this is a help sweety,well done for taking the initiative and not waiting til you're an ould one like me!!

One thing to be aware of is that tho the back pages of the thread I recommended are good,recently there has been problems at the Advanced Cosmetic Surgery and the media managed to get into the website and apparently ran a programme quoting a lot of the posts-the members have all(rightly so)become very cagey about what they say and are pm-ing each other onstead.However the earlier stuff should give you a great idea of what to expect with your banding op and aftercare. \good luckxx

I am getting the gastric band done in april the 21st in brussels, have it all booked and paid for, costin me 5680, which is cheap, compared to the one in Dublin, which was 10k, i think the surgeon aint working there anymore coz he didnt get paid? i dunno..

did anyone get it done here in brussels?

a bit nervous, a bit scared and a bit excited all in one.

i am 5"10" and 22.5 stone!! horrible i know, i have tried everything possible and think this is the last resort. have looked it up on the net, hence finding this site and ther is mostly good things to be said about it!

can someone be my buddy when it comes to this so i can at least relate to someone who has it done.

my email is lgarde@hotmail.com

not sure if they let ya post the email address, but what the hell

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hi tried to find that thread for nikki ..in ireland and spend about half hour and couldnt find it, can u send me the link pls if ya can

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