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@BurgundyBoy @Jen581791 thank you! I really appreciate your words! I'm dying to get some more excercise, unfortunately I have a hernia on my lower back, which is killing me and I'm not able to walk long distances, (I'm on a treatment to avoid back surgery) 

I think what kills me is that I wish I could do more but I am phisically unable to work out.

The first month my surgeon and my dietician allowed me to eat a few carbs (specially during the pureed and mashed foods phase) but I ate more than I should have, but now I'm determined to follow my new diet and not cheat at all, I'm finally allowed to use protein shakes which I know will help a lot.

 

 

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12 minutes ago, OlgaC said:

@BurgundyBoy @Jen581791 thank you! I really appreciate your words! I'm dying to get some more excercise, unfortunately I have a hernia on my lower back, which is killing me and I'm not able to walk long distances, (I'm on a treatment to avoid back surgery) 

I think what kills me is that I wish I could do more but I am phisically unable to work out.

The first month my surgeon and my dietician allowed me to eat a few carbs (specially during the pureed and mashed foods phase) but I ate more than I should have, but now I'm determined to follow my new diet and not cheat at all, I'm finally allowed to use protein shakes which I know will help a lot.

 

 

Sorry about your hernia, but hopefully losing weight will help with that. Don't hurt yourself with walking if you shouldn't! Some people definitely do this without a lot of exercise, so it is certainly possible. Here's an article on why exercise can't be counted on to make you lose weight, if that makes you feel better about this situation: https://www.vox.com/2016/4/28/11518804/weight-loss-exercise-myth-burn-calories

Protein shakes are definitely a big help. They're so convenient. 

The first month is so stressful with all the changes, and the new feelings in your stomach, and recovering from surgery. Don't be hard on yourself. Your new way of eating is just getting started now. It will change a lot in the next few months (and get easier!). 

 

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@Olga Sorry to hear about your back. My back was so bad I thought I would have to retire early, but it is now fine after losing nearly 50 lbs. (My arthritic hip is another story). WLS should help your back even if it does not cure you of the problem. With a somewhat herniated lumbar disc it was still possible for me to swim, and the swimming helps keep my spine limber (and reduced my disc pain). Weight loss, swimming, and yoga have made my back much better. I hope you can find something in addition to the surgery that could help your back. 

It's important to not oversell or under-sell the value of exercise. It is very important for health but not a primary driver of weight loss per se as the article posted by @Jen581791 goes into. Overwhelmingly the driver for weight loss after WLS is eating less. However, I still see it as a valuable second tier tool.

In the context of this forum for being considering or having had WLS, there are 2 main reasons: Statistically, significantly more weight loss after WLS in people who exercise, and: Maintenance of lower weight after achieving goal.

A review of 14 scientific studies of exercise after WLS done in 2010 found that (on average) the BMI of people who exercised was significantly lower (a bit more than 4%) at 12 and 24 months than in those who did not. By this the article meant that if the BMI in those who exercised was 22, it was 26 in those who did not. There are more papers that have been published since the review was done but I can't find another review since the 2010-2011 time frame that looks just at exercise. This paper was recently published (2016) and again found a significant weight loss benefit to exercise: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5299089/. The magnitude of the difference in BMI was again about 4, similar to what the review in 2010 had found. 

Some studies have looked at people who are able to maintain their weight loss over time. Reasons cited (amongst others) for regaining weight are (1) going back to bad eating habits and (2) a lack of exercise. The scientific data for this has not be critically reviewed to my knowledge. Studies done some time ago found that people who exercised after WLS had less fat and more muscle, which could mean an higher metabolic rate, but really, who knows. 

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Hey everyone! Quick update! I got out of the stall the day after my 1 month post-op appointment just after my surgeon told me he was expecting me to lose more pounds. 

Also, last week I got into an argument with my mother and I'm happy to report that coping with food was not my first option!! I never EVER thought that would be possible! 

My back is doing so much better! My doctor is amazed by the results!! 

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23 minutes ago, OlgaC said:

Hey everyone! Quick update! I got out of the stall the day after my 1 month post-op appointment just after my surgeon told me he was expecting me to lose more pounds. 

Also, last week I got into an argument with my mother and I'm happy to report that coping with food was not my first option!! I never EVER thought that would be possible! 

My back is doing so much better! My doctor is amazed by the results!! 

Great news OlgaC - nowadays I don't have a weight decrease, I just have sequential steps that are each an individual stall with drops between. Sheesh!

re: your NOT using food as an emotional crutch - even better news. And perhaps just as good is that your back is so much better. Weren't you thinking about having surgery on your back?? Great thing to avoid. 

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On 7/5/2017 at 9:48 AM, BurgundyBoy said:

Great news OlgaC - nowadays I don't have a weight decrease, I just have sequential steps that are each an individual stall with drops between. Sheesh!

re: your NOT using food as an emotional crutch - even better news. And perhaps just as good is that your back is so much better. Weren't you thinking about having surgery on your back?? Great thing to avoid. 

I was really thinking about it, but my doctor suggested an alternative therapy to help with the hernia (using ice bags and some electrotherapy on my lower back, then a massage with an ultrasound machine and finally a hot light) it's been really helpful but not a deffinite cure (yet)

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19 hours ago, OlgaC said:

I was really thinking about it, but my doctor suggested an alternative therapy to help with the hernia (using ice bags and some electrotherapy on my lower back, then a massage with an ultrasound machine and finally a hot light) it's been really helpful but not a deffinite cure (yet)

(For me it was the weight loss...and yoga)

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Hello!!! 

Lately I've been realizing that I don't like many foods/drinks I liked before, specially those sweetened with Splenda. If I take a sip of lemonade (like the crystal light kind) I start gagging because of the sweetener. Am I the only one here? 

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18 minutes ago, OlgaC said:

Hello!!! 

Lately I've been realizing that I don't like many foods/drinks I liked before, specially those sweetened with Splenda. If I take a sip of lemonade (like the crystal light kind) I start gagging because of the sweetener. Am I the only one here? 

Hi Olga - I am in general not a big fan artificial sweeteners, but after surgery they tasted so awful and chemical that I really avoided them for a few months. Now it's gone away a bit, so I can drink crystal light again, but it does still taste a little funny. It may be a temporary thing for you - I'd check occasionally to see if your tastes have changed.  

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I can't say that I had a seriously sweet tooth pre-op but post-op, I developed a serious dislike for sweetened foods/drinks - especially those with artificial sweeteners.  

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@cinwa @Jen581791 thanks guys!! I thought I was the only one hahaha. i don't miss it at all, I'm happy drinking plain water, but the other day I went to visit some family and the lemonade looked so good in the pitcher and I just took a sip and threw the rest away 

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10 minutes ago, OlgaC said:

@cinwa @Jen581791 thanks guys!! I thought I was the only one hahaha. i don't miss it at all, I'm happy drinking plain water, but the other day I went to visit some family and the lemonade looked so good in the pitcher and I just took a sip and threw the rest away 

I did exactly that yesterday morning.  I visited a local friend who gave me a glass of tea.  Thankfully, we were sitting in the garden and I was able to keep tipping a little away when she was distracted with her grandchildren.

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@cinwa I did that with a beer someone bought me. Lol A little fermented watering of the pub's flower boxes. :D

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1 hour ago, CurvyMermaid said:

@cinwa I did that with a beer someone bought me. Lol A little fermented watering of the pub's flower boxes. :D

It's quite interesting just how inventive we become with food and drink post-op.  

My claim to fame is wrapping a fudge topped cupcake (that a friend insisted I take) in a handkerchief and slipping it into my leather tote when no one was looking!  I picked a few crumbs off it to leave on the plate but due to the warm weather, my beloved leather Fossil tote was in a horrible mess when I got home. 

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1 hour ago, cinwa said:

It's quite interesting just how inventive we become with food and drink post-op.  

My claim to fame is wrapping a fudge topped cupcake (that a friend insisted I take) in a handkerchief and slipping it into my leather tote when no one was looking!  I picked a few crumbs off it to leave on the plate but due to the warm weather, my beloved leather Fossil tote was in a horrible mess when I got home. 

You must love your friend if you sacrificed a handbag for her! :( I like Fossil handbags, too. Poor thing.

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4 hours ago, Jen581791 said:

You must love your friend if you sacrificed a handbag for her! :( I like Fossil handbags, too. Poor thing.

It was just the lining and I managed to sponge off the worst of it without damaging the leather and in honesty, I bought it used off eBay.  

I adore my elderly neighbour - she comes and spends time with my DH if I can't get my regular help.  She knows that I've had WLS and has always been very supportive.  Normally, I don't have a problem refusing things like breads and cakes etc. because they're generally not gluten free.  But on this occasion, she went over and above and made some gluten free ones too and I didn't have the heart to tell her that I didn't want one after she went to that trouble for me.

 

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@OlgaC Hi! How are you doing? Is your weight loss going well?

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On 8/25/2017 at 2:17 PM, NerdyLady said:

@OlgaC Hi! How are you doing? Is your weight loss going well?

Heyy! Sorry I took forever to reply!! It's been amazing! As many others have said before, the only thing I regret about the surgery is that I took forever to get it done...

 

obviously I still forget I'm post op, last week I took a big sip of water and it was super painful! But what has changed a lot is now I see food in big portions and I get grossed out, when before it looked like a challenge, and my self confidence has gone through the roof! I'm finally going out with guys and feeling like I deserve it. 

 

Now I'm pickier of my relationships, a few weeks ago I went out with a guy for coffee, and before he knew I had gone through WLS, he started mocking people who decided to get the skim milk, sugar free versions of the beverages (which is totally my case), he said his father and grandfather had diabetes but that he wouldn't prevent it because "he wanted to enjoy his life" (I'm totally enjoying it with skinny vanilla lattes), so right after the date I decided I wasn't giving him another chance and my therapist congratulated me because now I know that when something or someone is toxic for me, it's going out... 

It's been amazing that now I can walk into (almost) every store and buy something I liked right there instead of ordering it online because extended sizes aren't carried in stores. 

so yeah, I'm almost 4 months out and enjoying every single step of this journey!!! 

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What an awesome update @OlgaC! Congrats on the weight loss and even bigger congrats on the new perspective on dating!

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Love your update OlgaC. It's interesting isn't it that as our lives change and we grow in both awareness of our needs and confidence in ourselves, that we can see the toxic people more clearly and dismiss them because we deserve more......and we know we are worthy of better companions!

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15 hours ago, Aussie H said:

Love your update OlgaC. It's interesting isn't it that as our lives change and we grow in both awareness of our needs and confidence in ourselves, that we can see the toxic people more clearly and dismiss them because we deserve more......and we know we are worthy of better companions!

I know!! And let me tell you the worst part! His mom is also a WLS patient, she had the lap band done a few years ago, and that's what shocked me the most! He doesn't even support his own mother! 

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On 9/11/2017 at 0:27 PM, OlgaC said:

Heyy! Sorry I took forever to reply!! It's been amazing! As many others have said before, the only thing I regret about the surgery is that I took forever to get it done...

 

obviously I still forget I'm post op, last week I took a big sip of water and it was super painful! But what has changed a lot is now I see food in big portions and I get grossed out, when before it looked like a challenge, and my self confidence has gone through the roof! I'm finally going out with guys and feeling like I deserve it. 

 

Now I'm pickier of my relationships, a few weeks ago I went out with a guy for coffee, and before he knew I had gone through WLS, he started mocking people who decided to get the skim milk, sugar free versions of the beverages (which is totally my case), he said his father and grandfather had diabetes but that he wouldn't prevent it because "he wanted to enjoy his life" (I'm totally enjoying it with skinny vanilla lattes), so right after the date I decided I wasn't giving him another chance and my therapist congratulated me because now I know that when something or someone is toxic for me, it's going out... 

It's been amazing that now I can walk into (almost) every store and buy something I liked right there instead of ordering it online because extended sizes aren't carried in stores. 

so yeah, I'm almost 4 months out and enjoying every single step of this journey!!! 

@OlgaC Hooray! I'm happy that you are living your best life. As my mother would say, mejor sola que mal acompañada!

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