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Old 12-02-2008, 10:35 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Yes, I have be scoped (endoscope)???? and MRI I saw the fistula myself on the film. The fistula is do to an abnormal connection.


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Hotdrama, just curious, have they scoped you at all to check for ulcers? If they haven't scoped you I would think that may be something that is in order. During a scope they can check for the H. pylori bacteria. That is a bacteria that is frequently the cause of ulcers. Its treated with antibiotics. It won't get rid of the fistula but before doing a revision I would think they would want to try to figure out what caused that fistula in the first place and treat it if it was a bacteria.
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Old 12-02-2008, 06:04 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Well phooey! I just got started drinking coffee again after 6 months of being without. I thought it was safe now, but I guess not.

Maybe that's why I am hungry more now! And I SURE don't want to risk complications of surgery.

Okay, this is my last cup.

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Old 12-03-2008, 08:12 PM   #24 (permalink)
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You are right that is how RNy is suppose to be done. But I must of had an idoit for a doctor. They and going to redone my surgery the right way.

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I didn't do well after surgery and found out at 6 weeks to the day after surgery that I had a huge ulcer. It was supposed to be the day I went to soft mushy foods and I didn't get to progress at that point. I was scoped that day and had a stricture also and was kept on full liquid diet til I was 4 1/2 months out from surgery. So I still have problems with solids. Most solids, especially meat, hurts like crazy. I just can't get them to stay down, so I have to substitute alot with protein drinks. I lived on instant coffee with powdered milk for the first year to year and a half. I would "try" to eat food, but if it hurt, I dumped it out and made a 16 oz cup of coffee. I was never told to not drink caffeine or not drink coffee by my surgeon or GI doc when I had this problem. They knew I was living on coffee with powedered milk and protein smoothies. So, I guess each doc is different. I have since stopped drinking so much coffee and changed over to hot tea with a splash of aguava nectar for sweetening and some added Splenda. But my tea also has caffeine in it. So who knows........

I am curious about something though and I hope someone can help me. I thought with the RNY surgery that the big part of our old stomach is totally separated from the small pouch and is basically standing alone somewhere in there so it still makes digestive juices which goes into the small intestines. I didn't realize that the cutting point that was made between the two could somehow open back up and let food go into the old, big part. I thought this is how the old surgery used to be when the stomach was stapled off. I thought the two were totally separated now with RNy so the staple line could not open back up to allow food to go into the old part. I'd really like to understand who this works because maybe I am misunderstanding this. Can anyone explain it to me?
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Old 12-10-2008, 01:42 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Hi,
It has been a few days since I heard from anyboby. Yesterday, I went to the doctor and found out that I do have a fistula and revision surgery is necessary. has anyone had this revision surgery
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Hot drama or Beth, Can you tell us what the causes are for ulcers in bypass patients? NSAIDS are a big cause right? What are others? Did your surgeon know Hotdrama?

I hope this isn't a thread hijack...I just think it's important for us all to know long-term potential complications. I worry about this. I have one complication I think: bone density compromise. I want to avoid others!
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Hi, I'm almost 2 years post bypass. (lost 120 lbs, woo hoo!) I've had a lot of complications such as vomiting & ulcers. Recently I started having a lot of abdominal pain & I wasn't feeling full again. I was so scared of gaining weight that sometimes I was making myself vomit after eating.

After multiple Dr. appointments, several more endoscopies & a CT scan, they determined that I had multiple ulcers & a fistula. The Dr was very vague as to what to expect after surgery as he wouldnt know until he got in there. I had my surgery Monday Dec 8th. The quick "in & out" to separate the pouch from the old stomach ended up being an almost 6 hour surgery.

They separated the 2 stomachs & ended up removing almost all of the old stomach to prevent regrowth. They had to remove a lot of the damaged tissue from the pouch, making it a bit smaller than it was originally after bypass. They harvested some fat from the abdominal cavity & wrapped it around my pouch to prevent anything from sticking to it again. I got to go home on Wednesday.

They left a drain in to prevent a collection of fluid & I will be going in for my post op appointment today to get it removed. Not really sure of the point of the drain, more fluid is just running out of the wound than is being collected in the bottle (eww) & the Dr office isn't concerned.

Hopefully this is the last complication & I can move forward. It is weird being back on the bariatric stage 1 diet again, but it's not like I'm hungry. It just makes you notice more how almost EVERY commercial has something to do with food. lol.

Didn't mean to gross out anyone, just wanted to give a very recent account on the subject.
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I am thankful for your response. The surgery you explained is exactly what my doctor told me he would have to do for me. It is a pleasure to know that I am not alone and there is someone I can communicate with who has experiences what I am about to go through. Right now they are getting approval from the insurance company. Did you have any difficulty getting the surgery approved?
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I didn't do well after surgery and found out at 6 weeks to the day after surgery that I had a huge ulcer. It was supposed to be the day I went to soft mushy foods and I didn't get to progress at that point. I was scoped that day and had a stricture also and was kept on full liquid diet til I was 4 1/2 months out from surgery. So I still have problems with solids. Most solids, especially meat, hurts like crazy. I just can't get them to stay down, so I have to substitute alot with protein drinks. I lived on instant coffee with powdered milk for the first year to year and a half. I would "try" to eat food, but if it hurt, I dumped it out and made a 16 oz cup of coffee. I was never told to not drink caffeine or not drink coffee by my surgeon or GI doc when I had this problem. They knew I was living on coffee with powedered milk and protein smoothies. So, I guess each doc is different. I have since stopped drinking so much coffee and changed over to hot tea with a splash of aguava nectar for sweetening and some added Splenda. But my tea also has caffeine in it. So who knows........

I am curious about something though and I hope someone can help me. I thought with the RNY surgery that the big part of our old stomach is totally separated from the small pouch and is basically standing alone somewhere in there so it still makes digestive juices which goes into the small intestines. I didn't realize that the cutting point that was made between the two could somehow open back up and let food go into the old, big part. I thought this is how the old surgery used to be when the stomach was stapled off. I thought the two were totally separated now with RNY so the staple line could not open back up to allow food to go into the old part. I'd really like to understand how this works because maybe I am misunderstanding this. Can anyone explain it to me?
Trina, our pouch and old stomach are totally separated from the two. You are correct in your understanding. But what can happen is that a fistula came form. Often this is because of an ulcer. The wall of our pouch kind of weakens and bulges out. Eventually it may bulge far enough out that it is near our original stomach. What can happen then is a channel can form between the two, almost like a bridge. So food not only goes into the pouch it also can travel over to your old stomach. That's why people with fistula complain of weight gain, lack of a full sensation and if they throw up they will probably start seeing bile again. Just like before the RNY was done.
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That is exactly correct. That is what happened to me. In the beginning the information I was getting made me think that the doctor had done something wrong. Also that is why it is important for follow-up. I have my RNY surgery 8/12/2002. The facility that I had it at filed bankrupcty and closed. I was seen in two weeks, 6 months and 1 years for weight in but no upper GI/Endoscope. I have been walking around thinking that I was a failure and this surgery would not work for me. That is what I had thought right before having the surgery. Because I had tried everything possible to lose weight. I lost 100lb and my self esteem when through the roof. I miss the great feeling of looking in the mirror and saying to myself you look good girl. I have gained all but 35lb back. When insurance company deny people they have no idea what we feel about being overweight. My weight gain is genetic. My sister is 450-500 and I had two brother die of massive heart attacks 41 and 34 years old due to obesity. I have had a good quality of life since WLS and want to continue that. I exercise 4 days a week step excercise and pilates and enjoy those activities. The more weight I gain the more of a failure I have begun to feel. i know that you guys can understanding where i am coming from. I talked to the insurance company today and they told me that there are some requirements for normal WLS surgery but since I have a fistula that will have to repair in the manner that the doctor see fit.
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Trina, our pouch and old stomach are totally separated from the two. You are correct in your understanding. But what can happen is that a fistula came form. Often this is because of an ulcer. The wall of our pouch kind of weakens and bulges out. Eventually it may bulge far enough out that it is near our original stomach. What can happen then is a channel can form between the two, almost like a bridge. So food not only goes into the pouch it also can travel over to your old stomach. That's why people with fistula complain of weight gain, lack of a full sensation and if they throw up they will probably start seeing bile again. Just like before the RNY was done.

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I am thankful for your response. The surgery you explained is exactly what my doctor told me he would have to do for me. It is a pleasure to know that I am not alone and there is someone I can communicate with who has experiences what I am about to go through. Right now they are getting approval from the insurance company. Did you have any difficulty getting the surgery approved?
I didn't have any problem with the insurance, because it's definitely a necessary surgery & can't really wait. I think it was maybe 3 weeks total from the time the Dr saw the fistula to the time I had the surgery. The only delay was the holiday schedules. I am so happy to have found this site. It's awesome to not feel alone in this anymore
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