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Old 10-03-2007, 07:26 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Eric... On top of all this, how have you managed to lose 100 pounds ON YOUR OWN!!!

Congrats on that!!!

Waiting for your update...

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Old 10-03-2007, 10:45 AM   #12 (permalink)
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OMG!!!
Eric, I'd be murdering someone by now!
I had NO PROBLEM with Pacificare...weird.
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Old 10-03-2007, 11:09 AM   #13 (permalink)
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I'm with Janine's husband on getting an attorney involved.

Eric, my heart goes out to you for what they're putting you through right now.
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Old 10-03-2007, 12:26 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Insurance companies are a big pain in the you know what. Your perserverence is astounding. I really think they try to put you off intentionally so they don't have to pay for covered services. They figure they'll wear you down and you'll just give up and go away.

Sounds like you're giving them a run for their money...lol

Keep rattling their cages and hopefully someone will listen. Best of luck to you.
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Old 10-03-2007, 07:33 PM   #15 (permalink)
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One of the men in my support group works as a patient advocate to mediate through insurance companies. We had a woman who was just having an AWFUL time with hers and he said that that was what she needed to do. To call the HR dept of where she worked and request to have a patient advocate assigned to her case. This is a person who will help you sort everything out and fight for you rather then for the insurance company.

I would STRONGLY suggest you do this. Give him or her all of your paperwork and information and let them slog through this all. It seems insane that with everything now approved TWICE that you would have to go through the process again. Your test results havn't changed nor has your need for surgery so why make you wait another 4-6 months going through everything again.

I'm sorry that you're having so many issues and I hope that you can find some solution that doesn't involve you entering the Pacific Care offices and taking hostages hehehe
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Old 10-04-2007, 12:02 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Thank you all for your support, encouragement, and helpful suggestions (as well as your good humor) - I really appreciate ALL of you!

Thank you for all of the "lawyer" suggestions, but I should explain first that I AM a lawyer myself, employed by the federal government and very much used to dealing with insane bureaucracies on behalf of individuals. I've spent a lot of time in the courtroom and have no fear of taking on a righteous fight. But, as my supervisor and I discussed after I got the denial letter, our jobs take a lot of emotional energy out of us and leave little left for fighting our own battles, especially when the battles really take up a lot of time, attention, and focus. One of the things that has really frustrated me is that I am someone who will NOT give up this fight, but I know that there are many, many consumers who are being held at bay by the tactics of insurance companies and who do not get what they need as a result.

Before I got the denial letter, I had already considered a "lawyer letter" to speed the never-ending reapproval process. It would be better to have someone act as my attorney rather than representing myself, but that's not a problem - I have several friends who are lawyers who are EAGER to turn Doberman on PacifiCare for me if I just give the word. Now, since the denial, they want to talk to congressmen on my behalf (one of my good friends is a good friend of one of them), for crying out loud! We'll see if it comes to that...

Shortly before the denial, I also talked to the consumer advocate for the Arizona Department of Insurance (a lovely woman who was self-pay for her RNY four years ago because of her insurance hassles, and now LOVES to advocate for patients as a result) who was one of the few people in any bureaucracy I've dealt with who offered any help or even an iota of interest. Unfortunately, her help could only be to use her contacts with PacifiCare to find out what the hold-up was with my reapproval, because the State of Arizona has no jurisdiction over my insurance because I am a federal employee. I cannot get help from HR because that's not how the Governemnt works. I CAN turn to the United States Office of Personnel Management ("OPM"), but only after I have exhausted the appeals process with PacifiCare. I can then file a lawsuit if OPM also doesn't get my denial reversed, but that process would be very lengthy.

I talked to a bunch of Burpee and Chiasson patients at the WLS support group on Tuesday night, and they were really in favor of my checking out those two doctors before deciding whether to appeal the denial. The Juarez patients all said to that their experience with Dr. Juarez was great, but aftercare has been a hassle. They recommended that I think about staying in Tucson if PacifiCare will cover Burpee and Chiasson. And, unlike Dr. Monash, who just finished a fellowship, Drs. Burpee and Chiasson have done about 450 lap RNYs each, from what I've been told, so they ARE pretty experienced, and staying in Tucson would be great. I most likely would have chosen them over Juarez had I known that I could have them, so they're looking interesting at this point. I'm still weighing my options and will decide what I want to do after the seminar a week from today...
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Old 10-04-2007, 12:46 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Well Eric... you may have another career looming over your shoulder... this is "boot camp" and you are in training, my dear! An attorney advocating for patient's rights... : )

You will get through this and you WILL BE VICTORIOUS... it's just sooo hard to wait it out and play their games.

I hope you get a good feeling from your seminar next week with Drs Burpee & Chiasson... Do they work as a team? Here -- there are two surgeons on the Weight Loss TEAM (along with 2 nuts, 2 psychs, pa's, bariatric nurses) and they both attend every surgery... I felt a stronger connection to one than the other - and will probably request him as primary... mainly for follow up reasons...

Cheering U ON!!!

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Old 10-04-2007, 01:19 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Eric, you deserve joy and peace, and you certainly don't need this ridiculous complication in your life.

Seems to me that you have a number of good options, and knowing you as I do, I am confident that you will choose the one that makes most sense to you.

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