People getting back into bad habits so close to surgery(rant) - ThinnerTimes

TypeR0149 · 05-07-2006, 12:02 PM

Please take everything I say hear with a grain of salt, im just venting and trying to help, this by no means is directed at anyone, it is just a general overview of some people I have seen not all just some.

a lot of people are eating popcorn, fatty carbs, and other junk after only being a month or 2 out I find that amazing, i mean not to nit pick, but I thought we had this surgery to help ourselves and the people that eat this way so soon after WLS have got to have a much higher failure rate. I guess some people just take this more seriously than others, actually maybe thats the wrong way to word it, some people are more determined than others.

we are going to lose weight now no matter what we eat, this is the honeymoon period and we have little to no physical hunger right now, so this is when we should be breaking our bad habits

and again im not trying to step on anyone’s toes, i just call it like I see it. We all have cravings thats natural but acting on it so close to surgery is just weak willed to me. sorry if i am out of place, i just try so hard to stick to the doctor diet exactly, and when i cheat its because I have some propel that has 2g of sugar not a popcorn at the movie. listening to your story's about how you already eating crap again only a few months after surgery has got to make it hard for myself and other people that read it to stay positive and focused on there goal. this is got to be why some people are at there goal in 14 months and others never come withen 30lbs of the goal

sure a year from now i would like to eat normal again, but if you don’t start to break bad habits, and are already justifying treating yourself only a few months after surgery than maybe you need to reevaluate your goals

again I am just trying to understand this, maybe I am toataly in the wrong and we can eat crap, get in bad old habits and wind up at our goal living happy ever after

everyone on hear is great you all have been the best support group i could of ever asked for, and if I didnt like and respect you all i would keep my mouth shut on this topic

mike

Lojak7 · 05-07-2006, 12:22 PM

Right on Mike! I couldn't have said it better myself. I do get treated different now that I have lost quite a bit of weight. The biggest problem is everyone telling me that "they know such and such, that had the surgery but now gained it all back." Then they proceed to tell me, "you better be careful....bla,bla,bla." I stick to a STRICT structured diet and excercise program EVERYDAY. I still have the indulgences, like a 25 cal square of dark chocolate with my espresso, but it is all accounted for in my diet. We can enjoy the things we want to, but wow, I see people on the board who eat utter crap. It is really sad. Do y'all remeber what it was like before and during the recovery of surgery??????? I know for me it sucked. As long as peple keep failing after the surgery, we will have a stigma attached to our accomplishments. Come on peeps....get it together. We CAN beat obesity. We can do it with support, advice, and most importantly with our new tool. I will gladly help anyone who needs it. I am still over 250 lbs down and it has been 16 months. It is a lot of work...but it can be done. Please, know this os not a derogatory post directed at anyone----just concurring with Mike, and hopefully getting some people to think about their choices. I work with a guy, whose wife had the surgery, she did pretty well. She lost 120lbs, went back to eating the way she did before and gained 100lbs back. When she looks at me she cries, and tells him, she does not want me around. It depresses her...WTF, what did I do??? Keep the faith!!! Fight the good fight!!! and God Bless!!

bridgetgirl · 05-07-2006, 01:21 PM

What I cant stand is when people come here and essentially gloat about their gluttony! Its one thing to admit your having a problem with a particualr food and then its another to brag about the bad stuff they shovel into their pie holes.
I keep a mental note about those kind of people and have absolutely no pity for them when they hit a plateau or gain weight back. When they have stall and dont know what to do, in my opinion its those people that have this surgery for all the wrong reasons... their vanity rather their well being.

Those are usually the same people that wind up with strictures and ulcers as well from not following their surgeons guidelines. Know this, stupid is as stupid does their actions will wind up effecting their health and jeopardizing their tool. To those kind of people, I say SUCKS TO BE YOU!

Fortunatley for us, we will be long term losers and weight loss masters! YEAH FOR US!

SDphotogrl99 · 05-07-2006, 01:29 PM

I agree. There are healthy alternatives to so many things. Why go with the easy way and just eat what is in front of you. These guys say "oh well I am a month out so I can only eat a little." Well what happens when you are 6 months out or even a year and you can eat more?? We have to make good choices from day one. Cheating just creates bad habits.

Mavisavis · 05-07-2006, 03:21 PM

I agree basically with everyone, but wish it was more clearcut how to use moderation. I think I have found a balance for me, at least for the moment (it seems that 80-90% of the time is a general rule.......did you know that 95% of statistics are made up? lol). But this is something most of us were unable to do in the past. So, while I certainly hope I have never come across as gloating about what I can or do eat, I do allow myself some things. But honestly, for the most part, I take the low cal, low fat, or healthiest choice I can within what I like. I think when we gloat or don't acknowledge what we eat or how life will change further out of the surgery is when we are heading for trouble. I notice a lot of people......ok, pretty much everyone that I know personally who had the surgery, eats less than before, but still badly. And again, they end up stuck at somewhere between a size 16 and 20. I have decided that if that is acceptable to them it is their choice......and certainly they are healthier and happier. HOWEVER, I, like Bridget, will not listen to them whine about where they are. And on this topic....I have heard LOTS of people brag about alcohol that dog others for bragging about food......hello.....pot and kettle?

melanie hirschorn · 05-07-2006, 04:07 PM

Mike, you are absolutely right. I am three years out. I have maintained my weight, but besides surgery, it's also changing eating habits and eating healthy. To this day if i go to the movie, i won't eat the popcorn there. i bring either my own that is healthier or i'll even bring an apple and a piece of cheese. the first year i wouldn't have thought of eating any kind of popcorn. i followed everything to the tee and i was one of the people who had 100 pounds to loose, but i lost all my weight within 9 months since i did follow everything exactly. i think people in the beginning think since they can only eat a small amount of something it's still okay. it's not. you need to change your eating habits to healthy eating so when you're a year out or more and are able to eat more you're eating the right kind of food. just because we have surgery doesn't mean we can't gain weight later on down the line. so, mike, the bottom line is follow what you're doing. you have the right attitude.
melanie

michelleJC · 05-07-2006, 05:15 PM

Mike,
I totally respect your decision to "rant" but I thought it was in poor taste that at 6 weeks out you are choosing to judge and criticize those that you feel are making poor food choices. Maybe you should have waited until you are a bit further out to tell us how we "should" be eating or how we "should" be feeling. I was the one that posted last night about eating popcorn. Just to let you know, I am a bit over 5 months out and until last night, have never cheated. I have never put anything in my mouth with sugar or fat. I have never eaten a cracker, piece of bread, bagel, noodle or any other starch. I exercise daily and have lost over 75 lbs. This forum I thought was for questions and answers and SUPPORT. Not a place to ostrisize those people that aren't meeting up to your standards as far as food choices or ways of thinking. We are all different. We are all adults and live our own lives and make our own decisions. I would never rip on or judge someone that I felt wasn't making the same choices that I was. When I was a couple weeks out, I didn't understand why people were eating what they were eating either. I asked questions and got good answers which made me understand and now that I am 5 months out, I totally understand. Just to let you know, I was sincerely hurt by your post as well as a couple others that posted after you. The anger in those posts was overwhelming. If you are angry by the things that people say on here, go to another forum but to be pissed off over things that people may be needing some guidance on, is rediculous.

melanie hirschorn · 05-07-2006, 05:53 PM

michelle,
you are five months out. mike is 6 weeks. i'm three years. the way i read his post was he wanted clarification if it's okay or not. i'm saying it's not okay. maybe that is why three years later i'm still successful and other people i know who are three to five years out have gained back 30 plus more pounds. I strongly believe in the saying once an alcoholic, always an alcoholic. Same with food. We have all had issues with food or we wouldn't have needed this surgery. We will have issues again if we don't change our eating habits early on and realize we can't test the waters. I don't know who did your surgery, but with Dr. callery we were not technically allowed popcorn at 5 five weeks out. We were supposed to eat first protein, then fruit and vegs, last carbs. i know when i was five weeks out if i ate protein first and then fruits and vegetables i had no room for popcorn. i didn't eat popcorn until i was at least a year out. i don't think we need to blast people for having opinions just because someone doesn't like hearing it.
melanie

AThinnerSandyFor2006 · 05-07-2006, 05:55 PM

Mike I have to agree with you too. Yes, I am only almost 3 weeks out. I can't believe that anyone who has this surgery would go back to bad eating habits. Yeah, I crave pasta but I don't eat it. I would love to have a big juicy steak but I don't! Why have WLS just to make bad food choices? Just my humble opinion.......

TypeR0149 · 05-07-2006, 05:55 PM

hmm, i think you took this way to personal and I am sorry for that, this was never directed toward anyone, more of something that i have seen both on this forum and in my everyday life, more often than not for every 3 success stories i hear there is someone who thought the surgery was a quick fix and did not understand what goes into it and gained back most there weight

This is a open forum that’s why i made the statement, there was absolutely no anger coming from me, just bewilderment, about how some "adults" can make these poor choices and than not understand the consequences of these poor choices

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Originally Posted by michelleJC

Maybe you should have waited until you are a bit further out to tell us how we "should" be eating or how we "should" be feeling.

i thought about that when was writing this, that maybe I am not "far enough out" to make any opinionated statement, and then i thought well maybe there are people that agree with me, and i found there are.

Michelle please accept my apology, because honestly i never directed this toward anyone in particular