People getting back into bad habits so close to surgery(rant) - Page 11 - ThinnerTimes

porshh951 · 04-22-2007, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Zenomia

What works for me is a good swift kick in the arse, a brow beating, bashing..whatever. I want the cold hard truth, the facts, no matter how harsh. This is how I respond BEST! Others, they want a shoulder patting, someone to listen, no berating or bashing because they have probably bashed themselves enough. What support is for one, doesn't necessarily mean it will work for another. That is the VALUE of this forum. We can post our failures and successes and get a little bit of insight from people who will bash you and pat you on the back.

Thanks and im the same way. I deal in facts. I want the cold hard truth so that I can work hard to change or fix it. I've always been pretty hard on myself because I feel success and failure lies with you and you alone. I'm the kind of person that will take full responsibility in every situation. So if im up happy or displeased about something...its my job to change it.

Being lazy and rationalizing why I was gaining the weight is what got me fat and im sure plenty of others. You've gotta change you're behavior and actions to secrete different results. I was surpised by jen's post the most. I think she really hit the nail on the head on most of the stuff. lol. save for ofcourse being lazy. haha.

Its hard to get yourself up after a long days work and dedicate a hour in the gym 5 days a week. Not everyone can bring themselves to do it. The ones that do though always love stepping on the scale the next week.

My entire life people have said you can't do this you can't do that. And I hear it from people all the time...I can't I can't I freggin can't. I think that word needs to be removed from the language. Everytime sometimes gives me a reason why they can't. I ask for 5 reasons why they can. You can change you're behavior and you're habits and you can develop new skills to better you're life.

No one said this crap was easy. You don't know how many times I walked to the fridge or the pantry in the begining out of pure habit and bordem. Its tough to break the cycle that made us fat. Its something I choose to do though.

If I slip one week and don't hit a goal its because I made a poor choice...simple as that. I wish people would spend more time taking responsibility than deverting it. I think its ingrained on us as MO people though. I used to come up with excuses and reason's all the time why I was a fatass. The best one's I would save for when someone would ask me why I don't do something about my weight. Its a shame. I could have been living better and healthier all along. If I would have got up off my lazy ass sooner.

"Time to go to work"

Mavisavis · 04-23-2007, 04:12 AM

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Originally Posted by LisaBoston

We are all different, have different pouches, eating habits and lifestyles. I think first and foremost we have to be honest with ourselves.

If I had a pouch like Van's - heck, anything I could get in, I probably would. I have a happy pouch, thus can eat most things so I seem to have to work that much harder than those who can't tolerate much. I can eat the crap, I just choose not to. I am not saying that I am perfect, and don't slip now and then, but I know for ME, I can't do this all the time.

My mom had her heart attack last year and her dietician told her 80% of the time, you need to be RIGHT on your eating plan. 20% is flexible. It works well for her. This might not work for me, but it works for her. Same as GBP, there are rules, if you can follow them, great, but if the pouch only tolerates certain things, what are you supposed to do? There is a BIG difference between eating WHAT you can due to pissy pouch and making poor choices. In the end its US that puts the food into our mouth and we have to be accountable to ourselves first.

I hear you......I have a pretty content pouch too. I have to watch for that slippery slope everyday. Could I gain back ALL my wiehgt....probably not. But easily I could gain 20-30 back and would not be happy.

JenBear7 · 04-23-2007, 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Mavisavis

I hear you......I have a pretty content pouch too. I have to watch for that slippery slope everyday. Could I gain back ALL my wiehgt....probably not. But easily I could gain 20-30 back and would not be happy.

No way Marty.. we'd be here to kick that skinny little butt! :P

Mavisavis · 04-23-2007, 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by JenBear7

No way Marty.. we'd be here to kick that skinny little butt! :P

Well, you know.....you'd have to fight me to get a turn! I'd be kicking it myself!

But it is hard work when your pouch is so very nice.

Ok, I wonder if anyone has the "perfect" pouch. The one that kicks your butt when you eat unhealthy or too much, but that nicely tolerates food you "should" eat. It seems many of us have grouchy pouch and struggle to get enough food and nutrition, or happy pouch that tolerates more than it should.

And neither one is easy to contend with.

MiladyB · 04-23-2007, 11:52 AM

I think what the point of everyone who has posted in this thread is the importance of ACCOUNTABILTY. I personally feel that is the success to my surgery. I need to be accountable to myself every day. That is what I need to succeed. Along with being accountable for my food choices and exercise is that I also have to be accountable for myself...or accept and recognize what my limitations and desires are. Many on this board have physical limitations that keep them from losing the weight like they might want to. For example Trina and Van with their fussy pouches or Trina and Tonya with their pain. Are they happy with the weight they have lost? Yeah, I think they are! Are they happy with the weight they are at or do they want to lose more? I suspect there are those who do want to lose more. I for one am one who does want to lose more. But there are choices I have made and limitations that I have that keep me from losing as fast as maybe I could if I was out hitting a gym 5 times a week. Does that make me lazy? No, it just makes me a different person from Gina, Carrie and John. I accept that. I accept my choices and limitations. Am I satisfied with my weight? Not totally but I am accountable to myself for my choices and limitations.

Personally, for me that is the answer. My goal is first and foremost, my health. The number is just a number. I may not make that "goal" number that I have picked for myself. I'm okay with that. I concentrate on health. For me...the goal of a number is destructive. I know for myself if I concentrate so hard on getting to a certain number by a certain time I will send myself into a spiral if I don't make it. So, I do what I have to do to be healthy. Does that include exercise and movment within my limitations and choices? Yep, it sure does. We do all have a choice but there are MANY that also have limitations. Are they happy with their present circumstances? Some may not be and that is okay. Happiness isn't really the goal for me....its acceptance of who and where I am, right now...each day...each step. I celebrate who I am and where I am and I strive daily to be accountable to myself, to do all that I can within my choices and limitations to be healthy.

Not sure any of that made sense but it is what I have to do for me.

atsagirl · 04-23-2007, 12:14 PM

Beth, I dido everything that you said, accountability and honesty will be the sure fire way to loose this weight and keep it off. Yes it will always be a struggle for some of us, this pouch is just a tool as had been said, but if we work with it and let it help us, we will be a success!
Ann

ladytonya · 04-23-2007, 12:38 PM

Deb, thank you! I needed to hear that. I am bad to beat myself up about one thing or another and it is just crazy! I have lost 124 lbs. in a little over 4 months. Wow. Just typing that makes me wonder how I have done this. Have I been perfect? Heck no! Have I been as bad as I would have been before surgery? Of course not, I can't! At this point, when I am bad I eat too many strawberries or too much yogurt. 6 months ago, it would have been eating 2 Big Macs, a super sized order of fries, and a Mountain Dew or a Pepsi. After what I used to do to mysel, how can I call eating too many strawberries bad? Anyway, I am rambling here and I just wanted to thank you for your post. I agree with you 100% and it is encouraging to me to know that people on here are watching my progress. I love this board!

CandyGirl101 · 04-23-2007, 01:08 PM

I think that you guys are right about accountability. Because you can only be responsible for yourself. I think that everyone experiences a moment of weakness when you think of your favorite food that you would love to eat at some point in time. But I don't think that depriving yourself is the answer either. I feel that you have to treat yourself to a little taste but don't go over board. I am almost 3 months post op and I feel a need to eat pizza sometimes even though I don't. However, in a few months if I feel that I want a bite of pizza, I will have it because it is my choice. That is the bottom line... CHOICES. Choices that each individual must make in his or her own life. The only thing I will add is that when each individual remembers where he or she has been before WLS, you would hope that there would be realization of not eating all the junk that you ate before and sticking to more happier habits.

porshh951 · 04-23-2007, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ladytonya

Have I been perfect? Heck no! Have I been as bad as I would have been before surgery? Of course not, I can't! At this point, when I am bad I eat too many strawberries or too much yogurt. 6 months ago, it would have been eating 2 Big Macs, a super sized order of fries, and a Mountain Dew or a Pepsi.

haha thats just awesome yeah. Bad is a realive term compared to how we all used to eat. Too many strawberries....lol. thats awesome

Rachel · 05-22-2007, 09:05 PM

I know this is a really old thread that has been revived a couple of times. It took me a while, but I just finished reading everything that everyone had to say. I just am not sure how to feel at this moment. How did I find this thread... I was searching "ice cream"

Now I am just not sure how I feel about myself. For the second time since surgery I had fruit this week. First time was a month ago and it was a bit of an apple that just didn't go down well. This time it was strawberries and Cool Whip Free. They were good and I kept feeling like I was doing something awful by eating them. I have had 3-5 strawberries with some cool whip free each day for the last 4 days. I have been losing as I was before and my calorie intake isn't up any higher. Yet after reading this thread I feel like I have done something really wrong.

Even worse... My middle son had his 3rd birthday party on Saturday (he loves strawberries and requested them, thats why they were even at my house

) Anywho... the last couple of birthday parties since I have had surgery my little boy, who is so loving and caring, has tried to share his cake and ice-cream with me. I have declined and told him I wanted him to enjoy it for me. He does, yet looks a little sad when mommy doesn't want to share anymore. So for this party I went out and searched for some ice cream that I could eat and share with him. I found some No Sugar added ice cream sandwiches with 6g of sugar per serving and 3g of fat. So I got those and had one at his little party. There wasn't a sad little look on his face this time. I actually sat outside with everyone when they were having dessert instead of hiding in the house (as I have done the last couple of times).

Was it probably not the best thing for me to eat... well yeah I should have skipped it all together. However, one of the main reasons for having this surgery was so that I would be able to enjoy all of these moments with my family for years and years to come. So I made a bad choice. I have had more then one of those ice-cream sandwiches since then. Like when the ice cream man comes and the kids just want to get one and sit at the back yard picnic table and talk.

I am not bragging, I am not proud, but I was truly happy for those few minutes when I was able to feel "normal" with my kids and just enjoy being with them and loving the moment.

As for the strawberries... They taste sinful but when I have eaten them it has been a trade for the veggies for that meal. Someone please pipe in and tell me if there is something wrong. Am I headed down a bad path?

Lay it on me!