Question - ThinnerTimes - Gastric Bypass Forum, Lap Band Forum, and Vertical Sleeve Gastrectomy Forum

Gina · 03-01-2006, 12:59 PM

How are people that are at the same point in the journey as I am ( give or take a few weeks) eating stuff like cookies and chips? I am still trying to get in enough healthy stuff everyday to even THINK about junk. Not to mention I really don't want to know if I would dump or not so I am afraid to even THINK about sugar.

I guess I don't get it ....

tm45 · 03-01-2006, 01:13 PM

Even though I am pre-op, I was wondering how some people are able to eat the cookies and stuff as well.

Great question, it kinda makes me worry though.... Will be able to eat these things too! Yikes!!!!

I sure hope not

LisaP · 03-01-2006, 01:16 PM

Well, they are only hurting themselves in the long run. I am 5 months post-op and like you said, struggle to get in the healthy food and 100 grams of protein! In the long run after the first year, the people still eating sugar and carbs will have a hard time maintaining their weight!

Stay focused and know that you are doing what is best for you - especially if you don't crave the bad stuff.... then it is that much easier to stay away

I used to be an ice cream freak, like major!! Mint Chocolate Chip was my fix! I have add one bite since surgery and amazingly, I don't like it anymore. I could care less if there was a gallon in my freezer, it just was not as good as I remembered so it lost its hold on me!

bridgetgirl · 03-01-2006, 01:24 PM

BECAUSE THEY ARE IDIOTS!

Who will all be fat again in another few years. The fact that they are glutenous and throw it in peoples faces is horrific! They have unrealistic expectations that this surgery is going to save them from a life of Morbid Obesity! Fact:This surgery is virtually goof proof for the first 6 months... your gonna lose no matter what you do. But in this time frame if you dont relearn and rething your behaviors YOUR GONNA BE FAT AGAIN.
Eating disorders are in the mind and if you dont clean those up along your honeymoon period, your gonna be a lost case.
Sorry to be so abrupt, but if what I just wrotehurts your feelings or bothers you in anyway... your one of the self sabatouers I am talking about and you need therapy!

niki1411 · 03-01-2006, 02:00 PM

i agree with bridget. i'm still a new post op but why waste the space on all the junk. your supposed to be eating healthy not trying to find a way to cheat. this is not a crash diet its a way of life.

feliciadragon · 03-01-2006, 11:29 PM

I am 3 weeks post op and I don't see how they can fit in useless calories and still find a way to get the nutrients that they need. I feel like everything I put in my mouth needs to have protein in it!!

I seemed to have lost my taste for sugar at this point. I found ice cream - Dreyer's Fat Free, No sugar added, sweetened with splenda - half a cup is 100 calories, 14 g of carbs, and 4 g of protein and also ice cream bars with a crunchy chocolate coating - Blue Bunny - 90 calories, 8 carbs and 2 g of protein - which I have in my freezer but I haven't really wanted them. My sister's birthday was last week and I made an italiam creme cake with cream cheese frosting from scratch - I tasted the batter to make sure it was sweet enough, but I didn't taste the icing as I made it. When we cut the cake later, I had about 2 bites, just enough for a taste, but thats all I really wanted and it didn't make me sick.

I find now that when I am craving something, it is usually "real" food like pizza or enchiladas. I have solved this problem now - for pizza, I melt 1/3 cup of shredded cheese with 8 pieces of shredded pepperoni in the microwave and then add a little pizza sauce - 210 calories, 6 g of carbs, and 11g protein and for enchiladas - 1/3 cup shredded cheese melted and then a little enchilada sauce added - 130 calories, 4 g carbs, 7 g of protein. It satisfies my cravings, fills me up, and isn't bad for me. Just basically deleting the bread products.

ezarella · 03-02-2006, 07:30 AM

Calm down Bridget! There's no need for that kind of anger about other people's snacking habits. I'm a counselor intern (the training wheels come off in December) and while I agree that people with eating disorders need therapy, berating them by calling them idiots, gluttonous, and lost causes will only make people feel worse about themselves and might even cause them to fall victim to the self-fulfilling prophesy ("Might as well keep snacking. I'm a stupid, gluttonous lost cause anyway. I've even screwed up gastric bypass surgery. The people on the support group board even think so.").

Besides, snacking after gastric bypass surgery isn't necessarily a symptom of an eating disorder. Eating disorders are not always "all in the mind," either (as if that would make it any easier to treat or recover from--schizophrenia and clinical depression are mostly "all in the mind" too).

This is supposed to be a safe place for people to voice their concerns, fears, successes and screw-ups. Comments like yours silence and intimidate those who realize they're screwing up and need support to get themselves back on track.

bridgetgirl · 03-02-2006, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by ezarella

This is supposed to be a safe place for people to voice their concerns, fears, successes and screw-ups. Comments like yours silence and intimidate those who realize they're screwing up and need support to get themselves back on track.

Are you kidding me? I have been on this board since its conception. I have heard people for years talking about "why do I do this " type of behaviors and make excuses for negative behaviors for a long time. No its not okay to snack, no its not okay to gain weight. Its that kind of thinking that got as MO in the first place. I dont make excuses for people who make negative choices time and time again. What frustrates me more, is hearing the "professionals" talk about why WLS is a waste of money and that it doesnt work, it does work if you make yourself accountable for your actions and not make excuses. It pains me to see people put on weight after WLS, and telling people to knock off negative behaviors is what they need.

To hear people essentially brag about what they can put in their mouths instead of fessing up to why they are doing it, and having people validate that its okay is so not cool. I care about people here, and REALLY care about those that I know from this board, and tell them all the same, Its not okay to gain, its not okay to eat when you arent hungry, its not okay and I will never validate negative behavior and am very much accountable for my own. I would never come on here complaining that I gained 10 pounds without a plan of action and a promise to my peeps on how to make it stop. This is a place for concern, questions and advice not a place to air your dirt without fear of hearing something you may not like. You want people to validate your negative choices and behaviors, go to obesityhelp. You want success no matter where you live do you want people to be proud of you, come to thinnertimes. Here we keep it real, can I get a witness?

Pixie · 03-02-2006, 12:00 PM

Wow Bridg, how do you really feel?

I actually have to agree. I think that by telling people it is ok to snack here and there, or add junk food to their diets, especially early on is setting them up for failure. We have risked out lives to have surgery to better them, and it is foolish to think that without serious changes in our eating habits and behaviors that we have any chance at long term success. I also agree that thinnertimes is not a place to come and just feel good about your choice, good or bad, it is a place to learn, vent, express fears, and sometimes to have people call you out in a direct way. That is what keeps us on track. As long as we express our concern about people's behavior in a way that comes across as caring, I think it is not only ok, but it is our responsibility, especially as people who have been through the process (some being further out than others I realize), and who know the challenges, and can recognize dangerous behavior sooner than people who are not familiar with the process. Anyway, I understand that we have to support each other, and not make people feel bad, but we are not talking about wearing the wrong color belt with brown shoes, or a shade of lipstick that is a bit too dark for your skin tone, this is about risking your life for a food addiction that you love too much to give up, but that doesn't love you back and could end up killing you. I think sometimes we forget how real that possibility is. It is called MORBID obesity for a reason!

eyesthatkissu · 03-02-2006, 12:07 PM

I don't think my eating an Oreo once a week is any different then you Bridget eating a handful of M n M's. I will never say that how one person is using this surgery is right or wrong. We all know the rules, we know what it takes to be successful. We may have different methods but I am not one to judge anyone. What works for one may not work for another. The key is always moderation. I remember being pre-op and freaking out about people eating a taco bell taco. Well the other day I had half of a Taco Bell taco and it was damn good. Maybe we can try and stop being judgemental and try and be more helpful......