In Switzerland we get chocolate mousse - ThinnerTimes

swisschick · 06-13-2005, 08:04 AM

Hi,
I had my bypass op exactly one week ago today in Switzerland (where I live) and it all went brilliantly. Your forum has been a great source of information for me in the run up to the op but I am surprised at how easy it has been having read of some of the threads. Maybe I have just been lucky, but I had absolutely no problems, no catheter (or bedpan, I just got up and went to the toilet), no problems getting in and out of bed, no pain (stopped painkillers 3 days ago), and no problems eating. I read a lot about sugar in the forum, over here I was given creme brulee as desert in hospital and chocolate mousse is on my diet plan for the next 4 weeks. So whats the deal with sugar?
Thanks for all the useful info and keep it up,

Carla (6 kilos down and dropping....)

kristyann · 06-13-2005, 08:24 AM

What kind of WLS did you have. There are many different kinds and some of them do allow you to still eat sugars.

swisschick · 06-13-2005, 08:35 AM

A gastric bypass, the only choice here is bypass or ring but they don't encourage the ring as they feel it has more risk of sideeffects and continued intervention afterwards so I had the bypass. The surgeon said that there was no reason why I couldn't eat and digest everything I ate before seeing as it was still my stomach and my digestion but he agreed that some people inexplicably have problems digesting certain foods. Anyway, I'm super pleased so far, and fingers crossed that it continues this way!

Peckkale · 06-13-2005, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by swisschick

Hi,
I had my bypass op exactly one week ago today in Switzerland (where I live) and it all went brilliantly. Your forum has been a great source of information for me in the run up to the op but I am surprised at how easy it has been having read of some of the threads. Maybe I have just been lucky, but I had absolutely no problems, no catheter (or bedpan, I just got up and went to the toilet), no problems getting in and out of bed, no pain (stopped painkillers 3 days ago), and no problems eating. I read a lot about sugar in the forum, over here I was given creme brulee as desert in hospital and chocolate mousse is on my diet plan for the next 4 weeks. So whats the deal with sugar?
Thanks for all the useful info and keep it up,

Carla (6 kilos down and dropping....)

There are several different procedures done here in the USA.

ROUX-EN-Y is considered to be "The Gold Standard of Bypass Surgery"

In this procedure, stapling creates a small (15 to 20cc) stomach pouch. The remainder of the stomach is not removed, but is completely stapled and divided from the lower stomach pouch. The outlet from this newly formed pouch empties directly into the lower portion of the jejunum, thus bypassing calorie absorption and the duodenum. This is done by dividing the small intestine just beyond the duodenum and constructing a connection with the new, smaller stomach pouch.

Patients may experience "dumping syndrome" as a result of the rapid emptying of stomach contents into the small intestine. This is sometimes triggered when too much sugar or large amounts of food are consumed.

http://www.crownsurgery.com/p158.html

swisschick · 06-13-2005, 09:07 AM

Hi, Yeah, Roux en Y is what it was. No-one (docs, surgeons, shrinks, nutritionists) ever told me about dumping but I have obviosuly read about it on this forum. I guess I will just have to wait and see if it happens to me. I mean obviously they don't recommend masses of sugary drinks etc but more because of the hidden calories in them rather than any side effects you may suffer from.

Peckkale · 06-13-2005, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by swisschick

Hi, Yeah, Roux en Y is what it was. No-one (docs, surgeons, shrinks, nutritionists) ever told me about dumping but I have obviosuly read about it on this forum. I guess I will just have to wait and see if it happens to me. I mean obviously they don't recommend masses of sugary drinks etc but more because of the hidden calories in them rather than any side effects you may suffer from.

And there is a good reason for them not mentioning it.

My husband is German and one thing I have learned about European is your foods are not loaded down with sugar like the USA does. Your candies and sweets are very bland in comparison.

The Roux en Y proceedure is perfect for those of us who would rather have a candy bar for breakfast, lunch and dinner. It forces us to make a protein choice for those meals.

LizardQueen · 06-13-2005, 06:35 PM

I hope things continue to go so well for you. I am scared to even try anything with sugar in it. I would love to go to Switzerland someday. I bet it is a beautiful country. Good luck and God bless!

Amber

swisschick · 06-14-2005, 12:55 AM

I thought of the sugar issue as well but assumed that despite popular opinion, not all Americans live off of sugar filled snacks and fast food just because they are obese. But anyway, I will just consider myself lucky and am making the most of the chocolate mousse whilst 3 spoon fulls still feels like I have eaten a whole tub! My doc stressed it was important to have balanced meals with a mix of protein, carb and veg but always suggests some form of desert to be eaten an hour or two after lunch or dinner - yoghurt, ice cream, fruit puree..... I don't know what I'd do without yoghurt right now, do you guys get to eat that or is it considered to contain sugar?

Oh and Switzerland isn't always beautiful! Right now I am sitting in a cloud!

Woody · 06-14-2005, 08:36 PM

There are "mousses" available in the grocery store that are sugar free. Just like the sugar free chocolate pudding. There are a variety of flavors as well. I have one once in a while. They are made by "Sans Sucre" and are sweetened with Nutrisweet and they are low fat as well. They come in boxes. I have never had a problem with them and they taste really good. I had them much more frequently in the early stages.

Hope this helps someone.

swisschick · 06-15-2005, 02:15 AM

Hi Woody, So does that mean that 3 years on you still don't eat sugar or is it just something you have to stick to in the early days? And is the only reason you don't eat it because of dumping? I am intrigued that something so fundamental over there isn't even mentioned over here, I mean it's the same op and we are all the same human beings so why the difference? Does everybody risk dumping?