LongTimer Question - Water = Empty Pains - ThinnerTimes

gWiz · 07-30-2007, 01:45 PM

Hey All,
Could really use some advice. I am approx 17months post op have done really well and concentrate on getting my protein and not drinking water for a hour before or after eating so I can retain my full feeling. Problem is for about 5 months now (since it started heating up) I am drinking more water. Approx 30-45 min after consuming water I get the painful empty ache feeling and truely 10 minutes of that has me clutching my middle. It doesnt stop until I put something solid in my tummy. And then the cycle starts again.

I know this is increasing my food intake and I am not happy with it. Have tested out many things and could use ANY suggestions you might have.

Details
I intake plenty of protein a day most of it "pure protein" between 80-120g daily
Morning workout - drink 1 liter water followed 45 minutes later by protein breakfast
Daytime - eating and mixing water is troublesome while the weather is hot
Evening workout - I do a frozen Isopure protein slushy and follow it usually 1 hr later with 1 liter of water but have recently been waking up around midnight with "empty pains"

HELP! Still have 60pounds to go!

AlabamaChick · 07-30-2007, 07:11 PM

You mean you are having hunger pains? I'm confused. You are eating because you are having just pain or because you are hungry????

JenBear7 · 07-30-2007, 07:29 PM

I'm kind of confused too... if it hurts when you stop drinking.. dont stop drinking

I know the simple version.. but maybe you should only stop drinking when you plan on eating.. in which case.. the pain wouldnt happen if I read your post right.. since you are putting something solid in?

Tracie · 07-30-2007, 10:26 PM

Maybe you have an ulcer? I battle them and they feel much better when there is food in there. If you aren't taking an acid blocker, try it. It really helps me.

AlabamaChick · 07-31-2007, 09:23 AM

I have the same feelings with my ulcer Tracie, but my problem is when I do eat something it usually comes back up when I am having that pain and THEN I feel better. It's almost like I have to eat and then vomit and then I don't have the pain anymore. Also I can drink a protein smoothie and it makes it stop for a bit, but then if I drink anything like crystal light or tea it is hurting all over again until I eat and throw up and then feel better til I start drinking again. It seems like a viscious cycle when mine is acting up too. I was thinking she may have an ulcer. It just feels better when there is something soothing in my pouch like a smoothie. I guess the milk coats it for a bit.

Tracie · 07-31-2007, 09:55 AM

Trina,

I wonder if the difference between the 2 of us is that you battle strictures and I have an enlarged stoma? I can't throw up even when I want to cuz the food is instantly in my intestines. hmmm....

gWiz · 07-31-2007, 10:06 AM

I think you might have pinpointed the problem. Hoping its not an ulcer but I have been lax in taking antiacids. So with my vitamins this morning I popped an antiacid and I can feel a difference. Even though I have drank 2 liters of water since eating my breakfast just before 8am, it is now almost noon and I am NOT having what I thought were empty pains (and now I think they were acid pains).

Plan to keep on the pepcid and have my doc check for an ulcer. Thanks all I would not have tied it together without your help.

AlabamaChick · 07-31-2007, 02:52 PM

I don't know Tracie, but I know my stoma is a little smaller than the average. The doc told me at my one year appt that he just didn't want to mess with it unless it's something I just can't live with or I'm not getting my nutrients in because he's afraid I will have problems losing all I want to then. Which makes sense. He says you can stretch to the point of sabotaging the results of the surgery, so that's one reason I deal with my problems. He also told me after I do lose all the weight and I'm maintaining that he can always stretch it a little after that for more comfort for me if that's what I want, but I will have to understand that being able to eat easier will pose a possible problem of gaining some weight back. I am HAPPY I can throw up! I don't think I could handle being sick feeling and not being able to throw up. Either way, I agree that when I have an ulcer and my pouch is empty......it hurts like CRAZY, sometimes to the point that I CAN'T eat because of the pain, that's if I wait too long to eat.

gWiz.....I'm happy we could help you with the ideas and you feel better!