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Old 10-08-2009, 02:54 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Ok, I missed the boat on this last one...maybe there were others out there that did too??? I'll be starting to try and reset my pouch on Monday - October 12th...anyone out there that would like to join me who is at least a year out and struggling with carbs, grazing and/or portion sizes - feel free to muster here and share how your progress is doing. I'll probably be reverting to last weeks group effort for a lot of info. Link provided below:

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Old 10-08-2009, 03:02 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Good luck everyone!

My advice for y'all: PLAN and have EVERYTHING ahead of time. I didn't for day three and it was a bit of a disaster though in the end I did GREAT.. it was very hard for me.

Cassie & I can attest that day 4 salsbury 'steak' is delish! We both made it with low fat beef... I used 90% ground sirloin and YUMMMY.. and this thing *works* I could only eat like 3/4 of it and I was full full full.. before the pouch test- I'd have eaten more than 1 .

The soups are YUMMY.. if you're not a protein shake kind of person- don't worry- you can do just the soups and eat as much of that stuff as you want LOVED DAY 1/2 and so far 4! Tomorrow- STEAK woot!
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Old 10-08-2009, 03:34 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Good luck you guys I didn't think I would be able to make it but I have so far, and I only have 1 1/2 days left. The 1st day was hard for me. I do eat less now and I've lost 3 1/2 lbs. Best thing is I don't crave chips & crackers & trust me I LOVE them. I'm going to do my best to stick to the no snacking on crap plan. Wish me luck!
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I recommend that you probably look up the full information (you can use Kel's links on the other thread, or search em out on the website)...but here's a short and skinny version of the plan that I copied when debating doing this awhile back.

Days 1 & 2: Liquid Protein low-carb protein shakes, broth, clear or cream soups, sugar-free gelatin and pudding. .

The first two days are all liquids. You can have as many low-carb protein shakes as you like to satisfy hunger or cravings. In addition drink at least six 8-ounce glasses of water each day. The purpose of all liquids is to break any snacking, grazing or processed carbohydrate habits. In addition the liquids will work to cleanse your system and prepare you for the following three days.


Day 3: Soft Protein
canned fish (tuna or salmon) eggs, fresh soft fish (tilapia, sole, orange roughy.

The next three days you get to eat as much as you want as often as you want! Ahhh, but there's a catch: it has to be solid protein and you only get 15 minutes each time you sit down to eat. No drinking 30 minutes before or after meals and no drinking with your food. A dry pouch will hold your soft protein longer helping your to feel full and fed longer.

Protein Recommendations: canned fish (tuna or salmon) mixed with lemon and seasoned with salt and pepper, eggs cooked as desired seasoned with salt pepper and/or salsa, fresh soft fish (tilapia, sole, orange roughy), baked or grilled, and lightly seasoned.

This starts your program with "soft" protein. Measure your portion (1 cup volume or 4-6 ounces weight) and eat only until you feel full, not overfull. Remember, no water for 30 minutes before or after you meal, and no fluids with your meal. We are going back to the beginning and fluids will prevent you from feeling the pouch. If you need to add a moist condiment ( Miracle Whip or mayonnaise) to the canned fish I understand, but keep it to a minimum so the meat is not too moist. One reason we lose the sense of tightness in our pouch is that we eat "slider foods" - foods that are too moist and do not stay in the pouch very long, they slide right through the stoma.

Day 4: Firm Protein
ground meat (turkey, beef, chicken, lamb), shellfish, scallops, lobster, fresh salmon or halibut.

By now you should be experiencing that familiar tightness that will reassure you that your pouch is working. Remember to drink plenty of water between meals. Take some time to meditate and rediscover the wonder of your pouch. Often we don't like that uncomfortable tightness of the pouch, which is why we gradually move toward slider foods that don't make us uncomfortable. It is always my preference to eat moist protein so I don't get uncomfortable, but doing so allows me to consume more than I should. Rediscovering the pouch with this 5-day plan reminds me of how the tool really works. I hope by now you are rediscovering your tool and enjoying the hope and excitement because your pouch still works.


Day 5: Solid Protein
white meat poultry, beef steak, pork, lamb, wild game

Remember to chew chew chew. Measure your portion (4-6 ounces) and eat only until you feel your pouch tighten. Remember, only 15 minutes per meal, so you'll have to work fast to chew your food completely. By now you should be out of any carb cycle you were in and perhaps you have lost a pound or two. You will have new confidence in your pouch and your ability to work the tool for your health and emotional well being.

Note from some other user or the author: This was me going through it and it really shows you how it went. It was awesome! On day 1 and 2 I ate pea soup, sugar free pudding and protein shakes. On day three I ate canned chicken with cheese melted on it. On day 4 I ate turkey chili, no beans with cheese melted on it. On day 5 I can't remember but it was protein only. It really worked and then I was back to basics..protein first, etc.
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Old 10-08-2009, 05:55 PM   #5 (permalink)
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For anyone joining in over the weekend...I'm off tomorrow, and Monday is a holiday for us Federal workers, so the next time you hear from me on this will be Tuesday. I'm not abandoning )

I might jump on here over the weekend if I find time and a connection...but I can't make any guarantees.

My plan is to follow the guidance, but pretty much just use the same foods that I did in the beginning just after surgery...it's just condensed down into days instead of weeks.

Good luck to those that join in...or well, if I'm all alone on this one - good luck to me! I'll see you all on Tuesday when I check back in.

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I agree with Kel plan and research this plan exactly. Because like Kel I really struggled on day 3 of soft proteins.

The first 2 days I had no problems other then missing my daily 2 p.m. popcorn. Which may have come as much from me being a creature of habit then the carb withdrawal. Day for has rocked as well. Salisbury rocks the casbah. My only sugggestion is add more pepper for seasoning.

Day is chicken day so I should be good there too.

Good luck everyone. It does work. I am down 3.6 pounds but more importantly I feel more in tune with my pouch now. And like Kel I only at maybe 3/4 of the steak today where as last week I would have hoovered down at least one.

Rock this ladies I know you can.

p.s its also helped keep me on track knowing that I am gonna totally kick Lori's sweet patuckus at this.
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I agree with Kel plan and research this plan exactly. Because like Kel I really struggled on day 3 of soft proteins.

The first 2 days I had no problems other then missing my daily 2 p.m. popcorn. Which may have come as much from me being a creature of habit then the carb withdrawal. Day for has rocked as well. Salisbury rocks the casbah. My only sugggestion is add more pepper for seasoning.

Day is chicken day so I should be good there too.

Good luck everyone. It does work. I am down 3.6 pounds but more importantly I feel more in tune with my pouch now. And like Kel I only at maybe 3/4 of the steak today where as last week I would have hoovered down at least one.

Rock this ladies I know you can.

p.s its also helped keep me on track knowing that I am gonna totally kick Lori's sweet patuckus at this.









i'm in!! i'm excited to get back on track. i'm tired of feelin crappy about my food choices. i excersize 6 days a week and its not doing any good if i continue to make bad food descions. i also bought atkins protein shakes- 15 g protein no sugar or carbs and 150 cals. im gonna put them in the freezer and have them as my "icecream" i figured that will help on days 1 and 2. so glad i have wonderful supporters!!
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Hey guys!! I am on day 4 and loving it!! Hunger is curbed some and I am definitely fuller quicker. I have a question, is it wrong to do the test more than once?!?!? I love it, I would love to start again on Monday with you all?
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Competition has helped keep me on track too. And as of today, we're tied, so you better bring your A game today, or your behind is mine.
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I agree with Kel plan and research this plan exactly. Because like Kel I really struggled on day 3 of soft proteins.

The first 2 days I had no problems other then missing my daily 2 p.m. popcorn. Which may have come as much from me being a creature of habit then the carb withdrawal. Day for has rocked as well. Salisbury rocks the casbah. My only sugggestion is add more pepper for seasoning.

Day is chicken day so I should be good there too.

Good luck everyone. It does work. I am down 3.6 pounds but more importantly I feel more in tune with my pouch now. And like Kel I only at maybe 3/4 of the steak today where as last week I would have hoovered down at least one.

Rock this ladies I know you can.

p.s its also helped keep me on track knowing that I am gonna totally kick Lori's sweet patuckus at this.
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Competition has helped keep me on track too. And as of today, we're tied, so you better bring your A game today, or your behind is mine.
Sorry ladies but I got you both beat!! I have lost 4 lbs! Oh yea baby!!!!
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