New Procedure for those who've gained - Page 3 - ThinnerTimes

porshh951 · 03-07-2008, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by MiladyB

Though I do agree with John and the others, I hope people aren't looked down upon and labeled because they need to go through a procedure like this to get them back on track. People are human. We all made bad choices before wls. That's how we became MO in the first place. .

This go's without saying. Everyone scews up. Its life where we are all human. No one is looking down on anyone.

I just wish people would be honest with themselves and really seek some help if they are struggling. Its okay to not be strong enough/smart enough to figure everything out. Sometimes I think because of shame/pride alot of GBS patients end up not getting the real advice and counsel they need and try and do it all on their own, then they end up diving back into their old lifestyle.

Claire-in-Texas · 03-07-2008, 08:09 AM

Your response above is the reason why I am stressing, in many of my posts, that PRE-OP AWARENESS is a key to success, in my opinion.

It is the ENTIRE process of RNY, not just the surgery, that makes the difference. And as we all know, even with that, it is not easy.

I'm not sure how I feel about the procedure that is the subject of this thread - I just know that I am doing my best to do it right the first time, to the degree possible, although I am human, and I screw up from time to time!

MiladyB · 03-07-2008, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by porshh951

This go's without saying. Everyone scews up. Its life where we are all human. No one is looking down on anyone.

I just wish people would be honest with themselves and really seek some help if they are struggling. Its okay to not be strong enough/smart enough to figure everything out. Sometimes I think because of shame/pride alot of GBS patients end up not getting the real advice and counsel they need and try and do it all on their own, then they end up diving back into their old lifestyle.

John, I agree with you 100% on this. One of the reasons support groups are so vitally important. We need to care enough about ourselves to get the help we need and admit that we need the help. If we honestly want to change our lives we not only have to change the outside but really more importantly, in my opinion, the inside. It isn't easy. It is all part of the healing process. Just like all of us lost weight at a different rate the inward healing also happens at a different rate.

I personally am very pro this type of procedure because none of us really know the future. Like I said, I have gone into my wls with the mindset that this is it. This is a tool to help me to do what is right for myself and the rest is most certainly up to me. But I don't know my future. One day something huge and traumatic may happen in my life. I pray that I won't fall back into food for my security and comfort but I AM a food addict and I would only be fooling myself to say it NEVER will happen to me. I could mess up. I could relapse. I could do things that stretch out my anastomosis. If that happens no matter how hard you try to use your tool correctly you may honestly be looking at a losing battle. In a very real way that wonderful tool would not be functioning like it was created to function and this procedure would be something that repairs your tool so that it is able to function as it was supposed to.

Now that being said I do hope surgeons will not freely do this procedure without looking at the entire picture. Why did this person regain weight? Where is their head at? Are they just looking for a "quick fix"? Are they doing all they should be doing to lose the weight they may have gained? Is their anastomosis really stretched out or is their weight gain due to bad habits that continue? I honestly think there needs to be a lot that a surgeon looks at before he will even do this procedure and be strong enough to refuse to do this on a person who is not of the right mindset.

BUT if someone does find themselves in this situation please don't be embarrassed. There is help BEFORE you become MO once again and this procedure most certainly is a means of help. Please care enough about yourself to get the help that you need because there is help out there. Each and everyone of us is worth it.

porshh951 · 03-07-2008, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by MiladyB

John, I agree with you 100% on this. One of the reasons support groups are so vitally important. We need to care enough about ourselves to get the help we need and admit that we need the help. If we honestly want to change our lives we not only have to change the outside but really more importantly, in my opinion, the inside. It isn't easy. It is all part of the healing process. Just like all of us lost weight at a different rate the inward healing also happens at a different rate.

I personally am very pro this type of procedure because none of us really know the future. Like I said, I have gone into my wls with the mindset that this is it. This is a tool to help me to do what is right for myself and the rest is most certainly up to me. But I don't know my future. One day something huge and traumatic may happen in my life. I pray that I won't fall back into food for my security and comfort but I AM a food addict and I would only be fooling myself to say it NEVER will happen to me. I could mess up. I could relapse. I could do things that stretch out my anastomosis. If that happens no matter how hard you try to use your tool correctly you may honestly be looking at a losing battle. In a very real way that wonderful tool would not be functioning like it was created to function and this procedure would be something that repairs your tool so that it is able to function as it was supposed to.

Now that being said I do hope surgeons will not freely do this procedure without looking at the entire picture. Why did this person regain weight? Where is their head at? Are they just looking for a "quick fix"? Are they doing all they should be doing to lose the weight they may have gained? Is their anastomosis really stretched out or is their weight gain due to bad habits that continue? I honestly think there needs to be a lot that a surgeon looks at before he will even do this procedure and be strong enough to refuse to do this on a person who is not of the right mindset.

BUT if someone does find themselves in this situation please don't be embarrassed. There is help BEFORE you become MO once again and this procedure most certainly is a means of help. Please care enough about yourself to get the help that you need because there is help out there. Each and everyone of us is worth it.

QFT(quoted for truth)

werd...

bridgetgirl · 03-07-2008, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by porshh951

names john btw

Say your name! (FIXED IT)

porshh951 · 03-07-2008, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by bridgetgirl

Say your name! (FIXED IT)

Its in my sig

BillH · 03-07-2008, 03:24 PM

Whooooooooo! Upon reading all this thread, this pre-op newbie is going to the gym to do some lifting! This batch of reality is pretty scary! As I'm pumping iron, I'll be hoping I have what it takes to make this my one and only stomach surgery. Geez, I do understand that there are medical reasons for additional surgery, and damn, that's got to be really tough fr those folks. So I want to have compassion for those people, and for anyone who's not gotten to the root cause of it all. Lord, help us! ALL of us.
BillH

AlabamaChick · 03-10-2008, 02:03 AM

I just have to say that I don't agree with everyone getting just ONE chance. Sorry Bridget, I love ya dearly, but who is to say we get ANY chances? I know I would hate it if nobody gave me a chance. It could be said that we had our chance and we screwed up the first time before we even had surgery. We couldn't do it then, so why would someone be looked down upon if they can't do it now? I think those people definitely need help and some serious probing into finding the root of their problems, but to say strike one and you're out is just not fair. Everyone is not the same and everyone will not react the same. Some can deal easier than others and we are all made differently. I know for me this surgery honestly "saved my life" literally. So, if it takes someone else a second time to "save their life", then more power to them. I'll support you with it! This is a serious issue and if it makes someone's life better and filled with more quality, then fine by me, just as the first surgery is fine by me. I'm not counting and nobody else should either. We all have to do what we have to do and to judge someone for failing at the first surgery is just wrong, in my opinion. We don't have the right to judge anyway. So, I say if it's something that can really help someone, then they should be able to do it if they choose.

MiladyB · 03-11-2008, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by AlabamaChick

I just have to say that I don't agree with everyone getting just ONE chance. Sorry Bridget, I love ya dearly, but who is to say we get ANY chances? I know I would hate it if nobody gave me a chance. It could be said that we had our chance and we screwed up the first time before we even had surgery. We couldn't do it then, so why would someone be looked down upon if they can't do it now? I think those people definitely need help and some serious probing into finding the root of their problems, but to say strike one and you're out is just not fair. Everyone is not the same and everyone will not react the same. Some can deal easier than others and we are all made differently. I know for me this surgery honestly "saved my life" literally. So, if it takes someone else a second time to "save their life", then more power to them. I'll support you with it! This is a serious issue and if it makes someone's life better and filled with more quality, then fine by me, just as the first surgery is fine by me. I'm not counting and nobody else should either. We all have to do what we have to do and to judge someone for failing at the first surgery is just wrong, in my opinion. We don't have the right to judge anyway. So, I say if it's something that can really help someone, then they should be able to do it if they choose.

AMEN to that, sista!!!