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rainrain · 02-11-2010, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by ladybadone

That was a very informative link. I am not having a problem with the drinking while eating, though I thought I might. Last night after my dinner which was some fish i had that fishy taste in my mouth so i just took some water and rinsed it out like mouthwash, without drinking it.

Hmm I just thougth about something. That link said liquids turn your food into a soup kinda so what about soup? I mean like veggie soup, chicken noodle soup ect? I guess dont eat the broth?

I can live without soda, I have before. I wasnt drinking much months before my surgery anyways. I rather have some milk or water. Soda is expensive and a waste of calories. I probably at this point could not even drink a regular one cuz I have been off sugar for a while now. Ugh at the thought, lol

Now Beer? It has carbonation in it? or just useless calories? I like a beer every once in a while in the summer ect.

In time you will most likely enjoy most of the foods you one did, but in much smaller quantities. Finding what things you are willing to eat or drink will be mindful and considered, rather than mindlessly swallowed. Moderation not elimination, although there may be some choices you decide to remove all together becasue you have chosen a healthier life style.

I find that I feel full fine with soups, because I chock them full of protein rich foods like beans and meat and lots of veggies.

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Originally Posted by watfam4

I do not disagree with most of this link, but to be clear it is a quote pasted from another blog of another GBS patient.

As for the stretching of the stoma, I would suggest the opposite. That adding additional fluids while eating emulsifies the food, making pass it through the stoma easier and stretching it less.

Yes, I agree that it should be noted that the link is not from a medical source. Thank you.

Here is a video that demonstrates how the food passes through the stoma. I found it to be interesting.

http://formerfatdudes.com/2009/11/fr...drink-and-eat/

watfam4 · 02-11-2010, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by rainrain

Here is a video that demonstrates how the food passes through the stoma. I found it to be interesting.

Did you forget to add the link for the video? I can not see it.

Thanks

rainrain · 02-11-2010, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by watfam4

Did you forget to add the link for the video? I can not see it.

Thanks

ooops...lol

Former Fat Dudes! Blog Archive Friends don’t let friends drink and eat

It is a good visual but not exactly professional or high quality, it gets the point across well enough.

watfam4 · 02-11-2010, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by rainrain

ooops...lol

Former Fat Dudes! Blog Archive Friends don’t let friends drink and eat

It is a good visual but not exactly professional or high quality, it gets the point across well enough.

Thanks. I think that is a great video. I'm going to bookmark the link.

rainrain · 02-11-2010, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by watfam4

Thanks. I think that is a great video. I'm going to bookmark the link.

I am glad you liked it, I also think this web site is particularly refreshing for men going through the process.

Phatlady · 02-11-2010, 06:07 PM

Wow, that guy is great and what a great blog! Excellent demonstration.

shiver · 02-11-2010, 06:40 PM

I have commented before and I shall comment again that this is one thing that I have been very worried about. I already KNEW why you don't drink while eating but I just couldn't wrap my mind around it. For the last 6 months I think about this every time I eat. I typically drink 1-2 16 oz waters with my meals. This has concerned me greatly. And I have tried to drink less, and have succeeded to an extent.

My point was I was thinking that this was bogus. So many doctors have different ways of doing this. I just felt like this feel into that category.

I REALLY needed that visual. It is the FIRST time I understood what is really happening in the body when you drink after a meal! Thank you so much. Now I can be motivated to do the right thing!!!!!!!!

Josephine · 02-11-2010, 07:20 PM

My surgeons paperwork states that sleevers don't have to be concerned about this issue and it really doesn't matter if we eat and drink at the same time as long as we make sure to get enough food in us but that RNYers are NEVER to drink and eat at the same time unless it's just a teeny tiny sip on the rare occasion.

shiver · 02-11-2010, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Josephine

My surgeons paperwork states that sleevers don't have to be concerned about this issue and it really doesn't matter if we eat and drink at the same time as long as we make sure to get enough food in us but that RNYers are NEVER to drink and eat at the same time unless it's just a teeny tiny sip on the rare occasion.

Interesting because I have heard the bariatric team say no drinking several times. This is what I mean by different with every doctor... It drives me crazy!!!!!

So we will see. Since I'm not on the other side yet I don't really know for sure what they will say. But it was still a great visual. Oh, and the video DID say that sleevers shouldn't drink during and after too. Who knows. I know I AM CONFUSED!

MiladyB · 02-11-2010, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Josephine

My surgeons paperwork states that sleevers don't have to be concerned about this issue and it really doesn't matter if we eat and drink at the same time as long as we make sure to get enough food in us but that RNYers are NEVER to drink and eat at the same time unless it's just a teeny tiny sip on the rare occasion.

The sleeve patients still have their natural pyloric value so drinking with meals isn't quite as big of an issue. With the sleeve patients the food and fluids are held in your stomach just like it was before surgery. You won't wash the food out and you can't stretch out the pyloric valve. We still don't encourage that you drink fluids with your meals though, simply because fluid takes up space and if you are so full with fluids you won't be able to eat the necessary amounts of protein. Now that being said, if you have a surgeon who makes a really tight sleeve (I know one) you may have to take small amounts of water simply to get that food to go down into the sleeve.

Even though the link Rain posted came from a blog, I have had medical professionals explain the same information. It really isn't just a myth. IF you stretch that stoma, food will pass into your small intestines and you have essentially increased the size of your pouch. You scope a patient who is 3-4 years out and you will more than likely see that the stoma has stretched. Some of it happens naturally but can be made worse if you aren't following the pouch rules. Over filling your pouch will put pressure on that stoma and over time it will cause it to stretch. If you drink with your meals and you haven't chewed your food down to the consistency of applesauce you can force the large bits of food through the stoma, stretching it out.

In regards to soup, I eat a lot of it but try to stick to the thicker soups. If it is more broth like I tend to eat the broth first, wait awhile, then eat the solid parts. When it comes to something like cereal, the general rule, from my nutritionist is to have less liquid than you do cereal. For example 1 cup of cereal ad 1/2 cup of milk.

Here is a link to information from a bariatric surgeon. If you look down towards the bottom there is a discussion about how you can stretch your stoma. It explains pretty much what the blog does. The information on this site seems pretty accurate. Only thing I take argument with is his information on vitamin and calcium recommendation.

http://drsimpson.net/07_surgery_stor...02/RNY/RNY.htm