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Old 08-23-2005, 08:38 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Just to make sure in the multivitamin the B-1 is in that right? I am also taking B-12 once a week along with many more.Has anyone taken Juice Plus after surgery?
I was taking it before surgery.

I take additional B-1 as well as the multi-vitamin. I also take the C with my iron complex in addition to the multi-vitamin. i learned that the multi vitamin alone does not cut it for me.
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Old 08-23-2005, 11:49 PM   #12 (permalink)
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It is exactly as you all stated. It is a VERY serious surgery. But it was do that, or lose my life. I had signs of Beri-Beri (look that up on a search), neuropathy in my arms and legs, and stated to show signs of malnutrition. I also had something called Werneke's Symdrome (I know I spelled that wrong).

I took every vitamin know to man such as Vista Vitamins, Real Meals, Vita Mist, and some others I can't think of right now, and NOTHING worked.

Good luck to all of you.

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Old 08-24-2005, 04:45 AM   #13 (permalink)
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It saddens me that you are going through this. You are such a sweet person and I just can't believe the difficulties you've faced. It seemed like things were going so well for you. Please keep us informed on your progress and know that you ARE in my prayers!
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Old 08-24-2005, 05:47 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Thank you very much sweetie. Have a great wednesday..



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Old 08-24-2005, 07:36 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Beri-Beri information for those that want it: AKA Thiamine Deficiancy

Alternative names

Thiamine deficiency; Vitamin B1 deficiency
Definition Return to top

Beriberi is a vitamin deficiency disease caused by inadequate bodily stores of thiamine (vitamin B1). It can damage the heart and nervous system.

Causes, incidence, and risk factors Return to top

There are two major manifestations of thiamine deficiency: cardiovascular disease (wet beriberi) and nervous system disease ("dry beriberi" and Wernicke-Korsakoff syndrome). Both types are most often caused by excessive alcohol consumption.

Symptoms of dry beriberi include pain, tingling, or loss of sensation in hands and feet (peripheral neuropathy), muscle wasting with loss of function or paralysis of the lower extremities, and potential brain damage and death.

Wet beriberi is characterized by swelling, increased heart rate, lung congestion, and enlarged heart related to congestive heart failure.

Beriberi has become rare in the United States because most foods are now vitamin-enriched, which means that a normal diet contains adequate amounts of thiamine.

As a result, beriberi now occurs primarily in patients who abuse alcohol, because drinking heavily can lead to malnutrition and poor absorption and storage of thiamine. This is the cause of Wernicke-Korsakoff syndrome, which is alcohol-related brain damage affecting language and thinking.

Beriberi can also occur in breast-fed infants when the mother has an inadequate intake of thiamine. It can also affect infants fed unusual formulas with inadequate thiamine supplements.

Others at risk for beriberi include patients undergoing dialysis, patients receiving high doses of diuretics, and people in developing countries with limited diets who consume milled rice.

In addition, there is a rare condition known as genetic beriberi. This is an inherited condition in which affected people lose the ability to absorb thiamine from foods. This can happen slowly over time and manifest as an adult. Since beriberi may not be considered in nonalcoholics, this diagnosis is often missed.

Nervous system symptoms are caused by the degeneration of nerve fibers and their insulation (myelin sheath). Heart failure is the most common cause of death in people with beriberi.

Symptoms Return to top

Early neurologic symptoms include:

Complaints of symmetric tingling or burning pain in the extremities
Numbness in the extremities
Vomiting
Strange eye movements (nystagmus)
Later neurologic symptoms (Wernicke's encephalopathy) include:

Mental confusion/speech difficulties
Difficulty walking
Coma
Death
If a patient with Wernicke's encephalopathy receives thiamine replacement, language problems, unusual eye movements, and walking difficulties may subside, but may be replaced by Korsakoff's syndrome, which includes memory loss, impaired ability to learn, and confabulation (making up stories to explain behavior that have little relation to reality).

Heart Failure Symptoms:

Shortness of breath with exertion
Symmetric swelling of the lower legs
Awakening at night short of breath
Signs and tests Return to top

A physical examination may show signs of congestive heart failure, including symmetrically swollen lower legs, fluid in the lungs, and elevated neck veins with labored breathing, a rapid heartbeat, and an enlarged heart.

The person with late-stage beriberi may be confused or have memory loss and delusions. Neurological examination may show a loss of vibratory sensation (the person is less able to sense vibration), decreased reflexes, loss of coordination, gait changes, nystagmus, drooping of the eyelids, and inability to move the eye outwards.

Tests include:

Measurement of blood thiamine and whole-blood or erythrocyte transketolase activity
Measurement of urinary thiamine excretion
Clinical response to administered thiamine (symptoms improve after the person is given thiamine supplements)
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Thiamine can be administered by injection and with pills. Patients should also receive therapeutic doses of other water-soluble vitamins.

Expectations (prognosis) Return to top

Following thiamine treatment, the symptoms should improve rapidly. Cardiac damage is usually reversible and is not permanent. Full recovery is expected. However, if acute heart failure has already occurred, the outlook is poor.

Nervous system damage is also reversible, if caught early. If not, some symptoms (such as memory loss) may not be completely recovered with treatment.

Untreated, beriberi is often fatal.

Complications Return to top

Psychosis
Coma
Congestive heart failure
Death
Calling your health care provider Return to top

Beriberi is extremely rare in the United States. However, if you feel your family's diet is inadequate or poorly balanced and you or your children have any of the described symptoms, call your health care provider.

Prevention Return to top

Adequate intake of thiamine will prevent beriberi. Nursing mothers should make sure that their diet is adequate in all vitamins and be sure that infant formulas contain thiamine. People who drink heavily should try to cut down or quit and supplement their diets with B-vitamins to ensure appropriate intake of thiamine.


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Old 08-24-2005, 04:18 PM   #16 (permalink)
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You poor dear! I hope things are looking up for you and please keep us posted on your progress!
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