Feb 4th Oprah on Gastric Bypass - Page 2 - ThinnerTimes

LisaBoston · 02-05-2008, 10:02 AM

I wasn't impressed. 3 people were lap band, but some of the comments they made were so unreal. The one guy who was 16 who had bypass was a good candidate in my opinion and was the most "realistic" to me. The other ones sugar coated it. There was one girl who was on the oprah show a few years ago and has now had transfer addiction to alcohol, so that was a good discussion.

Oprah still doesn't get it. Those who don't know a lot about the 2 surgeries would be confused after watching the show and being as it was teens, even more controvercial. Dr Oz was good, however they really didn't get into the meat and potatoes of it...

Deirdrea · 02-05-2008, 10:05 AM

I didn't get to watch it but I think that Oprah DOES have a huge bias against the surgery. I think that she thinks she did it the hard way and everyone should be able to as well. Personally if I had a trainer coming to my house every day at 5am to get me out of bed to exercise and a chef cooking all my meals then YEAH I could lose all the weight and do alright with keeping it off, especially with all of the pressure surrounding her TO keep it off, but that is not reality by any stretch of the imagination for 99% of the population. I think she does these shows to show both sides of it and she does them because weight loss surgery is a huge thing in our country today, but I think she's hoping to see poor outcomes just to be able to say, even if it's under her breath, "I told you so".

janine · 02-05-2008, 10:19 AM

I watched the show yesterday and I have to say that Oprah did give the impression that she was against the surgery by her expressions and her body posture etc. She either didn't want to do the show at all or she is totally against the surgery. The tean girls really didn't tell it like it was. They all were young and didn't really know how to express what they went through. I was surprised they didn't talk about how they fealt after surgery and what kind of foods they can't eat etc. I do wish she had an actual gb surgeon explain what these kids went through and the process and not that doctor oprah has on her show all the time. I'm still not sure if I approve of teans getting the surgery but in some cases they're health is demanding it as a very young age.

Another point of view would be that Oprah has to deal with her weight and she's often having a loosing battle. She yo-yo's in her weight too. She may be contiplating doing something drastic herself (her personal battle).

desmccoy · 02-05-2008, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by katzz87

I for one wasn't impressed with the show. I felt that Oprah didn't agree with having surgery. Not sure why I felt that...but that was the IMPRESSION I received! Just my opinion...

Because she doesn't Agree with the surgery. This is one reason why her and Dr.Phil are in disagreement.

CanuckDiva · 02-05-2008, 02:47 PM

I saw most of the show but missed the beginning.

What I did see, I was not overly impressed with. Oprah definitely displays a bias against the surgery.

When she was talking with Kylie about what she now eats it was mentioned that now, as an example of a meal, she could eat 'half a hamburger and a few fries'. I was thinking -hmmmm not one mention that a meal like that would be a once in awhile occurrence and it's not just that you can eat less of old-habit unhealthy foods but that you have to make healthy choices (low fat, low sugar, etc).

Also it really bothered me that they had a girl on toward the end of the show who had lost the weight on her own and ended up in Seventeen Magazine and, of course, Oprah was making a huge deal over her and there were thundering applause for her accomplishments. I did not see encouragement or thundering applause from Oprah for the teens who had accomplished their weightloss goals with assistance from WLS.

While I also applaud the young woman who lost weight at her own initiative her situation was not the same as any of the others on the show. She admitted that during her life she'd never thought about healthy eating, just ate whatever she'd wanted and that this was the first time she'd actually tried to lose weight - she'd NEVER tried to lose weight before.

I am also tired of hearing about the 'reasons' or underlying motivators that 'made people fat' in the first place and how if these are not 'healed' then the person will not have success. Although there may be some truth to this they completely ignore the situation of people who have tried for years to cut calories, exercised, etc. to lose weight and it's just not successful.

I was pleased to hear Dr. Oz say he was in favour of what he called 'these types' of surgeries but he believed there should be proper supports and precautions in place especially for those who are in adolescence (I personally think that's true for everyone who has WLS).

There was some very good information overall but Oprah is just so biased against WLS and making it seem to be the 'easy out' that it really bothers me. Looking forward to what others have to say on this....

Hugs,
Kimberly

Claire-in-Texas · 02-05-2008, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by CanuckDiva

I saw most of the show but missed the beginning.

What I did see, I was not overly impressed with. Oprah definitely displays a bias against the surgery.

When she was talking with Kylie about what she now eats it was mentioned that now, as an example of a meal, she could eat 'half a hamburger and a few fries'. I was thinking -hmmmm not one mention that a meal like that would be a once in awhile occurrence and it's not just that you can eat less of old-habit unhealthy foods but that you have to make healthy choices (low fat, low sugar, etc).

Also it really bothered me that they had a girl on toward the end of the show who had lost the weight on her own and ended up in Seventeen Magazine and, of course, Oprah was making a huge deal over her and there were thundering applause for her accomplishments. I did not see encouragement or thundering applause from Oprah for the teens who had accomplished their weightloss goals with assistance from WLS.

While I also applaud the young woman who lost weight at her own initiative her situation was not the same as any of the others on the show. She admitted that during her life she'd never thought about healthy eating, just ate whatever she'd wanted and that this was the first time she'd actually tried to lose weight - she'd NEVER tried to lose weight before.

I am also tired of hearing about the 'reasons' or underlying motivators that 'made people fat' in the first place and how if these are not 'healed' then the person will not have success. Although there may be some truth to this they completely ignore the situation of people who have tried for years to cut calories, exercised, etc. to lose weight and it's just not successful.

I was pleased to hear Dr. Oz say he was in favour of what he called 'these types' of surgeries but he believed there should be proper supports and precautions in place especially for those who are in adolescence (I personally think that's true for everyone who has WLS).

There was some very good information overall but Oprah is just so biased against WLS and making it seem to be the 'easy out' that it really bothers me. Looking forward to what others have to say on this....

Hugs,
Kimberly

I watched it, and I totally agree with Kimberly's take on it.

Duckie · 02-05-2008, 03:27 PM

Oprah is a sanctimonious bitch.
But you didn't hear that from me!

offstringgirl · 02-05-2008, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by CanuckDiva

I saw most of the show but missed the beginning.

What I did see, I was not overly impressed with. Oprah definitely displays a bias against the surgery.

When she was talking with Kylie about what she now eats it was mentioned that now, as an example of a meal, she could eat 'half a hamburger and a few fries'. I was thinking -hmmmm not one mention that a meal like that would be a once in awhile occurrence and it's not just that you can eat less of old-habit unhealthy foods but that you have to make healthy choices (low fat, low sugar, etc).

Also it really bothered me that they had a girl on toward the end of the show who had lost the weight on her own and ended up in Seventeen Magazine and, of course, Oprah was making a huge deal over her and there were thundering applause for her accomplishments. I did not see encouragement or thundering applause from Oprah for the teens who had accomplished their weightloss goals with assistance from WLS.

While I also applaud the young woman who lost weight at her own initiative her situation was not the same as any of the others on the show. She admitted that during her life she'd never thought about healthy eating, just ate whatever she'd wanted and that this was the first time she'd actually tried to lose weight - she'd NEVER tried to lose weight before.

I am also tired of hearing about the 'reasons' or underlying motivators that 'made people fat' in the first place and how if these are not 'healed' then the person will not have success. Although there may be some truth to this they completely ignore the situation of people who have tried for years to cut calories, exercised, etc. to lose weight and it's just not successful.

I was pleased to hear Dr. Oz say he was in favour of what he called 'these types' of surgeries but he believed there should be proper supports and precautions in place especially for those who are in adolescence (I personally think that's true for everyone who has WLS).

There was some very good information overall but Oprah is just so biased against WLS and making it seem to be the 'easy out' that it really bothers me. Looking forward to what others have to say on this....

Hugs,
Kimberly

Thank you for typing that all out for me! I couldn't agree more! Yesderdays show was suppose to be fully about teens and WLS. What I don't understand is....why was that other girl on there if she didn't have surgery? I mean, I think it's great that she did it on her own and everything, but it's like Oprah tossed her on there at the end kind of just to throw everything in the other kids faces. Again, I think it's great that she did it on her own, but I think she would have fitted in better if she were on the show at a different time. It was Teens and Weight Loss SURGERY!...not teens and weight loss. Just my take on it.

kit60 · 02-06-2008, 10:37 PM

I agree with what Duckie said. Oh I didn't watch the show because of the same thing. LOL

Squishy · 02-07-2008, 05:40 AM

I didn't see the show, but from what I have read... it is the classic, ignorant view of weight problems. It is great that the girl lost the weight without the surgery, but it had nothing to do with what they were talking about. Oprah should know better. We all know that we can lose weight without surgery. We've all dieted, we've all lost some weight. The problem is that some of us fail to keep it off. For some of us, surgery is the right approach. Personally, I lost over 100 pounds on four separate occasions before surgery, but each time I gained it back.

The way my surgeon explains it; some of us are predisposed to by heavy. We are genetically programmed to prepare for famine. Our bodies send signals to pack on weight. When we exercise, diet, etc and lose weight, our body responds by saying "I knew there was a famine coming, good thing I had the extra fat stored! Now, quick, put weight back on because there could be another famine!" The surgeon said that, for some of us, the drive to eat is as strong as the drive to breathe. Try not breathing for a while and see how your body reacts. People accept that breathing is involuntary, but seem to not want to believe that eating can be similar.

I hate it when I see magazines showing people who lost weight where they feel compelled to add "and they did it without surgery" or "and they did it the hard way". Makes me crazy. If they think WLS is "the easy way", then they are obviously completely uninformed. They send the message that we should be ashamed of using a surgical approach. Then again, who cares what these idiots think? They are probably the same people that picked on the overweight kids in school. They have to make themselves feel better by trying to make others look worse. I really don't want or need their approval.

-Mike-