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Old 08-16-2005, 01:58 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I downloaded a trial piece of software a few days ago that tracks my weight-loss/food intake.

This morning I sat down to input the past few weeks of food intake, ( I have it all written down on paper) and discovered something disturbing.

Over the past two weeks I've been sliding back to old pre-op eating habits of high Carbs-low Protein. I didn't realize it until I pulled up the graph and seen the protein level showing a steady drop.

I'm back on track as of now.

I promise to drink my protein drinks, take my nasty protein supplement (Pro-Stat 64), and eat protein first!

Protein intake today - 80.5 g
Carb intake today - 61.49g
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Old 08-17-2005, 11:42 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I know this may sound wierd but I am glad to hear that there will be those days. I have not had my GBS yet but have been keeping a diary of the foods that I have been eating. I have tried to curb my intake of food and watch what I am eating. I had a slip up when visiting my son and daughter-in-law and new granddaughter. I have been beating myself up over it. I guess I shouldn't be so hard on myself but I can't help but think of keeping to the progream. When the procedure come up does it get any easier to your food intake? Thanks for your input. It is good that you were monitering your intake though. I am glad your back on track and keep up the good work you know it is so worth it.
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Old 08-17-2005, 02:53 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I know this may sound wierd but I am glad to hear that there will be those days. I have not had my GBS yet but have been keeping a diary of the foods that I have been eating. I have tried to curb my intake of food and watch what I am eating. I had a slip up when visiting my son and daughter-in-law and new granddaughter. I have been beating myself up over it. I guess I shouldn't be so hard on myself but I can't help but think of keeping to the progream. When the procedure come up does it get any easier to your food intake? Thanks for your input. It is good that you were monitering your intake though. I am glad your back on track and keep up the good work you know it is so worth it.
I can only tell you how it's been for me. Keep in mind I have had no complications and can eat ANYTHING I desire.

The first few weeks were the hardest. I had food cravings....No I had sugar cravings. I was craving powered sugar covered jelly donuts and I don't even like donuts! I was afraid to put anything made with sugar in my mouth. It took about 4 to 5 wks for the sugar cravings to subside. Now I can walk past the candy/cookie/chips section of the store and not feel deprived.

My first time in the grocery store has heartbreaking. As I read food labels I realized just how I'd managed to get so fat and stay fat through all my dieting attempts. .....sugar, Sugar, SUGAR in everything! I felt like I would never find foods I could eat. Sugar free/low sugar products are out there, it's just a matter of reading those labels.

At six weeks out I just had to have a regular ice pop. It had 55% sugar. I ate it expecting to get sick but nothing happened. So, the next day I had another and the day after that yet another. Then on the fourth day I woke up and asked myself why I was trying so damn hard to defeat my surgery.....I haven't touched another sugary ice pop since. Only sugar- free food passes my lips now.

I can tell you as someone who came away from the surgery without dumping syndrome that the longer you stay away from the sugar the less you want it.

I've also learned that sugar is an addiction. I might as well have been hooked on drugs. It's the same thing....I now see that. And our foods are loaded with it. It's like the food industry is working overtime to get you fat and keep you fat. After all, fat people eat lots of food and lots of food means higher profits.

The surgery forced me into detox mode. Now, even though I can eat it, I choose not to eat the sugary products. I am not going to defeat the surgery I worked so hard to get.

What the surgery has accomplished for me is this. I can eat two ounces of soft food such as cottage cheese or refried beans and only one ounce of firmer foods such as string cheese. I now have control by means of negative reinforcement.

If I eat one tiny bite too much I am hurting or end up vomiting (and vomiting is to be avoided at all costs because it stretches your new pouch). I've made the mistake of swallowing one bite too much just twice and I can tell you, I won't be making that mistake again!

I've kept a food diary on paper but switching to a food diary software opened my eyes. The computer charts out sugar (carbs) protein and more. It helped me to get back on track. High protein - low carb.

Don't be so hard on yourself and start reading labels. Practice for your surgery. If it has more than 8% sugar don't buy it.

The foods are loaded with crap to get you craving and keep you craving. Again for me I've found, the more sugar you eat the more hungry you are.

Good luck and keep us posted on your upcoming surgery date.
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Old 08-17-2005, 02:55 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I'm glad your back on track! I know I fight the carb thing too! I have never been a big meta eater so this is a constant struggle for me as well. Keep up the good fight!
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Old 08-20-2005, 03:11 AM   #5 (permalink)
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I just gotta say that the ice pop really isn't all that bad. The fact that one bite of anything will make you throw up tells me your tool is working. You haven't had the dumping syndrome because you have not over done it on the sugar, but the throwing up is also the dumping syndrome. I know you have the ablility to dump, and you have been careful what you put in your mouth. Even though you feel you have over done it in many ways. At this point, you really can't over do it, other than eating too much and making yourself sick. You cannot get in enough calories to gain weight right now. I understand that you do not want to get back into old habits. I found that by not worrying about it, and to just eat normal portions that my body didn't shut down, so that when I began to eat more, it wasn't shocked at the real butter, or the occasional sweet. It is also true that you can eat alot more carohydrates than protein. One ounce of chicken is heavier than one ounce of mashed potato. You will be full for 4 or 5, or even 6 hours on chicken when after one ounce of potato you will be hungry again in two or three hours, maybe less. If you drink with that potato you could be hungry again in half an hour.

You are doing great on this journey, and an ice pop is fluid, and calories, both of which you need at this point. Protein, well try eating that protein instead of drinking it. I liked your post about the protein. Unless you are working out a lot, and I mean alot, you don't need 80 grams of protein. Your pouch will count your calories for you. When you get where you can eat more, at 7, 8, or 9 months post op, you may want to count calories, I don't.

When you get close to goal, you will lose alot slower, but don't worry about that, it is natural. Harder to lose the last 20 pounds than the first 100. Right now you can only lose weight. You were not that big to begin with, and probably a shorty like a few of us on here.

You have good information, and you know what works, working it will be your best option. Good luck with your journey, you are doing great!
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Old 08-20-2005, 09:01 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I've kept a food diary on paper but switching to a food diary software opened my eyes. The computer charts out sugar (carbs) protein and more. It helped me to get back on track. High protein - low carb.

What's this food diary software you mentioned?
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I don't know what one Peckdal has. But I just bought Fitday.com. I love it. You can go on line and download it for 29 bucks. I ordered the download and the software for sharing.

You can also go check it out for free online without purchasing anything.

I love mine it is a true reality check. I know your husband would love it too beings he is such a work out junky. You can log all your exercise actvities there is long list including going to church and having sex. They also have an extensive food list and if it is not on there list it is very easy to add your own foods.

Just my opinion.

Robin good to see you back in action again.
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According to my surgeon the "Honeymoon Period" is to be used for training for the days when appetite returns and the pouch can hold more then just 1 - 2 ozs of food. Oh and BTW I never lost my appetite. I get hungry every few hours. The difference pre-op and post-op is the size of the portion I can eat.

Perhaps some will choose to wait until after the honeymoon period to install the habit of counting calories. I've choosen to do it now. I am teaching my eyes to see the small portions my body needs to survive at 125 lbs. And my eyes at this point in time, are bigger then my belly.

The software I'm using is called Weight-By-Date. There is a trial version you can download and try. http://www.weightbydate.com/downloads.htm

I'm going to download the trial version of Fitday.com and compare them.

I love the tools in Weight-By-Date and I'm curious if Fitday has the same.

**Few minutes later update** I WAS going to download Fitday but I don't see where they are offereing a trial version.
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Ok here is the deal for me, I didn't have any sugar cravings after surgery (thank god) but I was craving a shrimp cocktail something terrible and I didn't want to blend it up LOL! I would have wanted to put a gun to my head if I had sugar cravings for 5 weeks. One thing that I haven't experienced is eating until my pouch is full and I want to throw up. But I swear it seems like I can put a lot more than 1-2 oz in it. Anyone else with this experience? I can eat a whole cup of soup and about six crackers (saltines) doesn't that seem like too much food for one sitting? Ok just my 10cents Suzy




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The first few weeks were the hardest. I had food cravings....No I had sugar cravings. I was craving powered sugar covered jelly donuts and I don't even like donuts! I was afraid to put anything made with sugar in my mouth. It took about 4 to 5 wks for the sugar cravings to subside. Now I can walk past the candy/cookie/chips section of the store and not feel deprived.
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I am learning so much. This is a dumb question but what is "dumping"?
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