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poet_kelly · 11-04-2009, 01:05 PM

Oh! And even though Bariatric Fusion contain plenty of iron, you won't absorb it because they contain so much calcium. The calcium interferes with the absorption of iron. So you would probably need to take additional iron anyway.

Kelly

Corrine · 11-04-2009, 01:07 PM

Added to which, calcium and iron should never be taken together.

There may be some financial saving using Bariatric Fusion but bottom line, what price do you put on your future health.

Corrine · 11-04-2009, 01:08 PM

lol Kelly - you beat me to it.

poet_kelly · 11-04-2009, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Corrine

lol Kelly - you beat me to it.

LOL.

Kelly

poet_kelly · 11-04-2009, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Corrine

Added to which, calcium and iron should never be taken together.

There may be some financial saving using Bariatric Fusion but bottom line, what price do you put on your future health.

I don't think you would really save anything. I mean, if you want to meet the ASMBS guidelines, you'd have to take eight a day, which would be about $50 a month. Then you'd have to add on calcium citrate. You'd be taking a ton of pills a day and it wouldn't save you money.

Kelly

TooManyExcuses · 11-04-2009, 01:11 PM

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the ASMBS says we need 200% of the RDA of most vitamins and minerals after RNY
Kelly

I have been to their site several times and I see mention to the fact that a multivitamin must be taken, I can not locate any information to support how much or what percentages. Could you you link it cause I have to be an idiot to not find it.

poet_kelly · 11-04-2009, 01:22 PM

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I have been to their site several times and I see mention to the fact that a multivitamin must be taken, I can not locate any information to support how much or what percentages. Could you you link it cause I have to be an idiot to not find it.

Sure. Here's the link to their guidelines. I think it's on page 7. And I believe it says something like 200% of the RDA of at least 2/3 of all nutrients. To be honest, that 2/3 part confuses me a little. Does it mean as long as it has 200% of at least 2/3 of stuff, it's OK? No matter which ones it is? Because it seems like we should need a certain amount of vitamin A and certain amount of vitamin D and you get the picture. How would it be OK if we have enough of 2/3 of things but not enough of the other 1/3? So I just look for 200% of most stuff.

http://www.asbs.org/Newsite07/resources/bgs_final.pdf

Kelly

TooManyExcuses · 11-04-2009, 01:37 PM

thanks alot

I found the info on the calcium and iron not being taken together but not on the RDA of 200%.

TBH, I am fine with the calcium and iron together in one pill because, it is the iron that I wont fully absorb and since I am not a pre menapausal woman, my iron requirement is not nearly as high. Plus the weekend at wal mart, I found a bottle of iron of 250 pills for 5 bucks. this works out to 2 pennies a day or 60cents a month for additional iron. This is why the Fusion, coupled with an extra iron pill seemed like a good plan, until you tossed in the 200% RDA monkeywrench

poet_kelly · 11-04-2009, 01:50 PM

It's at the very top of page 7. Under multivitamin-multimineral supplement, it says "A high-potency multivitamin containing 100% of daily value for 2/3 of nutrients" and then over to the side, under the column for RNY, it says "200% of daily value."

There is still the calcium issue with Bariatric Fusion, too. Not enough calcium, and some of it's calcium carbonate, and you don't know how much. So there is no way to really figure out how much more calcium citrate you would need to take. You just know you'd need to take some.

I think the idea of getting all your vitamins in just four tablets a day is very attractive. Unfortuntely, it doesn't seem to work out very well in practice.

Kelly

MiladyB · 11-04-2009, 07:42 PM

Kelly, I just wanted to get back to you about the B-12 in the Celebrate multi-vitamin. I sent Vic an email and asked him about the absorption, since we no longer have the intrinsic factor. Here is what he explained.

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Beth

Sorry for the delay in getting back to you. From a formulation standpoint and from research, our products contain sufficient levels to ensure that MOST patients will not require additional B12 outside of our multivitamin. There is a common misconception about the absorption of B12. Sublingual or injection are probably the easiest forms for the body to absorb but the body will absorb B12 via passive absorption if taken orally. It is at a rate of 1-2% which is why we need to put so much in to be absorbed. 350 mcg equates to 3.5 to 7 mcg of absorption while the body needs 2 mcg daily to function and this does not take into account what is stored.

The thing to keep in mind is that everyone is different and there are a-lot of factors that play into how a person will react. You may be a person that falls into the B12 minority and if that is the case, then you should probably look at supplementing with additional B12. Working with your RD is the best bet and keeping a close watch on your labs which I know that you do.

I don't think that I am telling you anything that you don't already know but I hope that this helps.

Thanks.

Vic