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Old 11-06-2008, 08:54 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I don't know if you guys get email from UNJURY... but I found this one to be especially helpful --- as I continued to struggle with protein. I have UNJURY in my pantry... but have not found a way to "love" it (yet)... Nice folks tho - have spoken with Jerome on a couple of occasions!

Myths: Weight Loss Surgery and Protein


Here’s something we’ve learned from you:

We’ve learned about mistakes that patients have made that hurt their results and their health. We do hope this email helps others learn the “easy way".

These are the 3 myths that we believe can cause the most problems:
Myth 1: I’m done with the program. I’ve lost weight. I don’t need to track my protein anymore.
Myth 2: I’m at the solid food stage. That means I’m off supplements.
Myth 3: Protein is Protein. Just get the number of grams recommended.
Let’s discuss one myth at a time:

Myth 1: I’m done with the program. I’ve lost weight. I don’t need to track my protein anymore.
Why it’s a myth:

Protein is essential to every part of your body. When you don’t consume enough protein, your body gets what it needs by taking away more protein from your muscles and organs—to use it for building and repairing elsewhere. Eventually your muscle and organ tissue weaken.

The New York Times "Diagnosis" column1 told the story of a man with severe chest pain who had been on a restrictive diet without medical advice. In the ER, they first thought it was a heart attack, but it wasn’t. It was a case of malnutrition. "Malnutrition can eat away heart muscle." He wasn’t getting enough protein to his heart. The walls of the left side of the man’s heart were thin and weak...painfully, and dangerously weak.

Myth 2: I’m at the solid food stage. That means I’m off supplements.
Why it’s a myth:

First, when the doctor’s office says you can move on to solid foods after surgery, that doesn’t automatically mean to stop using supplements. The ASMBS (American Society for Metabolic and Bariatric Surgery) has issued recommendations that patients get 60 to 80 grams of quality protein each day.

Can you get that much protein from food? Well, you would need, for example, this much each day:

10 ounces (almost two-thirds of a pound) of chicken or beef (the weight after cooking shrinkage)

OR

10 eggs

OR

14 containers of Yoplait Original Strawberry yogurt

That’s hard to do...What if you don’t get enough protein?

First, reread the story about the man with the thinning heart walls above.

Then, remember that protein is key to not being hungry -- and not being hungry is key to losing weight2. We regularly hear from patients and from surgeons’ offices, and even read in the newspaper about patients who had surgery one or more years ago, who are now gaining weight or who have hair falling out.

Please do get the recommended amount of protein for the rest of your life. Every day.

Myth 3: Protein is Protein. Just get the number of grams recommended. (We have even heard this from surgeons and dietitians.)
Why it’s a myth:

The quality of the protein makes a huge difference. What you need most is complete protein. Some supplements that have a lot of protein only provide a little complete protein. If it isn’t complete protein, your body cannot use the protein for building and replacing cells -- what your heart, and the rest of your body needs.

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Thank You !

As always, thank you so much for telling others about UNJURY !

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Martha and Jerome
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1 The New York Times, October 10, 2004 “Diagnosis" by Lisa Sanders, MD

2 "A number of short-term studies indicate that protein intake exerts a more powerful effect on satiety than either carbohydrate or fat..." Dietary Reference Intakes for Energy, Carbohydrate, Fiber, Fat, Fatty Acids, Cholesterol, Protein, and Amino Acids (Macronutrients) (2005) Food and Nutrition Board (FNB)

Paddon-Jones D, Westman E, Mattes RD, Wlfe RR, Astrup A, Westerterp-Plantenga M. Protein, weight management, and satiety. Am J Clin Nutr 2008 ; 87(5): 1558S-15561S.

Weigle DS, Breen PA, Matthys CC, et al. A high-protein diet induces sustained reductions in appetite, ad libitum caloric intake, and body weight despite compensatory changes in diurnal plasma leptin and ghrelin concentrations. Am J Clin Nutr 2005 ;82:41-8

Leidy HJ, Carnell NS, Mattes RD, Campbell WW. Higher protein intake preserves lean mass and satiety with weight loss in pre-obese and obese women. Obesity (Silver Spring) 2007;15:421-9


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Thanks for the post because I just got done talking to my PT and he was preaching to me about bumping up my protein. I told him I am not getting enough and with my injury my muscles are not healing.


Please, Please, Please get in your protein your body needs it!
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Fortunately, I'm with a surgeon who believes in protein supplements and even now, I still have at least one protein drink a day.

I don't eat meat so getting in what I work best at (80g + a day) would be difficult without supplementation.

During my active weight loss period, I always shot for 100g plus of protein. I've been through 2 major surgeries now and I credit my speedy and problem free recovery from getting that protein in.
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good post!

Recently I started eating my protien on the plate first and the sides with fat or carbs come after. this way if I fill up at least I got my protien in. thats a little off topic of shakes but none the less good advise.
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I will have to share this with my mom she got surgery about 5 years ago and after she reached goal she stopped everything else vitamins protein seeing the dr. and everyday I worry about her.
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I will have to share this with my mom she got surgery about 5 years ago and after she reached goal she stopped everything else vitamins protein seeing the dr. and everyday I worry about her.
That is frightening.

Often, vitamin and mineral deficiencies don't appear until months and sometimes years after WLS.
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it is extremely frightening me doing the research to have surgery and readying up on all the complications and her just waiving her hand at it saying I am thin it doesn't matter and me saying but I want you to be alive when I decide to have children.
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