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10-03-2008, 04:47 PM
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Yeah youre right Tiaaya, everyone is different i've heard thats about all ive heard from my doctor actually. When I love whole milk and when I lost 77 lbs along time ago, I went for a long period of time substituting whole milk with 2%, 1% milk or low fat milk.. and when found that I became lactose intolerate. I could no longer have any percentage of milk especially whole milk. Soy milk is about the only milk that works best for me and I love soy milk but im not crazy about soymilk in my cereal. lol
And I know what you mean about the eggs feeling like a ton in youre stomach, its recently started to happen to me too.
Thanks for youre response! 
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10-03-2008, 05:39 PM
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I'm 2.5 months out and here are the things I can't eat anymore:
bread
dairy other than cheese (lactose intolerant)
eggs
anything fried
fatty things (I dump on fat)
sugar (anything under 10 grams is ok)
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10-03-2008, 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Pink_Diamond
I get confused when people say they cant eat soemthing.. I wonder if they mean if the taste of it bothers them now or actually holding it in their stomachs.
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It can mean either or both things. With respect to taste, most of us experience taste changes post-op, some temporary and some permanent. There are lots of threads and posts about this here on Thinner Times that you can search to see the amazing variety of experiences people have. A quick example: I hated blueberries before my Vertical Sleeve Gastrectomy and now I love them, whereas I loved beef before my VSG and now I hate it. Still love chicken, still hate seafood, started liking eggs post-op but now hate most pork products..l.
With respect to actually keeping things down, there are issues with that as well. As everyone has said, it's an individual thing and you won't know until you're post op. I don't have dumping like a RNY patient, but I avoid breads and tortillas because not only are they high in carbs, but they also sit really badly in my "sleeve", plus I don't like the taste the way I used to. Nuts are sometimes hard for me to eat - discomfort, but no vomiting. I still love the taste of jalapenos and spicy foods, but my "sleeve" doesn't share my love for them anymore. One day a Morningstar Farms soy sausage patty (they're really good IMHO) gives me no trouble, another day it feels like I've eaten a hockey puck...
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10-04-2008, 01:47 AM
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Thanks LisaBoston for sharing!
Wow I didnt think anyone could tolerate steak after that surgery. How long has it been since you had youre surgery? So youre saying the longer after the surgery the better youre able to tolerate foods? That would be great if it works for everyone.
I know this surgery is intended to help us eat smaller portions of food and ofcourse fattening foods arent going to help up but get us back where we were in the first place, I just dont understand how everyone whose had this surgery has so many foods that there stomach spits up if you cant hold it and soem of these foods arent unheathy or heavy at all.
But I like ive heard everyone is different so I have yet to see what my body wont be able to tolerate.. i get a feeling milk and eggs will definatlky be on my list.
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10-04-2008, 01:50 AM
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Thanks for youre response EKAnderson
Ive heard of gthe dumping syndrome but I thought if it happens you have to have surgery to fix it but it can happen again. Is that right or does it happen often and surgery isnt always needed? What happens when you dump?
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10-04-2008, 02:12 AM
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Thanks for youre response Osodeldeseirto
Oh wow that does explain alot. Thanks for elborating on that now I understand alot better. Alot of people have a problem with peanuts I hear. And congradulations on the weight loss! You've lost alot in only one year thats great!
The gastric bypass procedure is alot more challenging then I thought it would be. I just thought it allowed smaller portions into youre body at a time, i didnt think that something like chicken could sit well in youre stomach one day and then the next time you eat, youre stomach rejects it. That might be tough not knowing what to eat at work or like one of the other ladies said here, on road trips and such.
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10-04-2008, 02:45 AM
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Hey Pink!
First let me clarify, I didn't say I couldn't eat fruits and veg's, I just listed somethings that give me trouble. I love bananas and eat several a week. For instance, I love to cut one up and mix it with yogurt or s/f chocolate pudding. I can eat all types of melons too. During the winter I crave citrus fruit, but have found that grapefruit and oranges seem to "pass" through rather quickly, IF you know what I mean. I love raw broccoli and cauliflower also like it cooked. I love salads, lettuce, tomato, cucumber and cheese. Often I will put my chicken over it (cut up into small pieces of course) and some dressing. Usually works well for me. I eat tuna and there are a lot of different ways to cook fish without deepfrying, so IMO usually fish is something tolerated by most.
I remember at about 6 months it got easier to eat, for some it's sooner for others it's longer. You really shouldn't be afraid of "things you won't be able to eat". Remember this is a lifestyle change, which is a good thing.
You asked about my daily food consumption. Well I'm a little over 6 years out and about 7 weeks out of Sclerotherapy, so I'm still having some food issues. When I first had the RNY, I ate a lot of cream of wheat w/skim milk for breakfast. It was easy for my pouch to tolerate. Now I usually have an oatmeal packet with no milk and I usually have it on the thicker side, sprinkle a packet of equal or sweet-n-low etc. and I'm good to go. I usually have a couple of snacks during the day, although everyone's doctor is different. Mine wants me to eat three meals a day period. I get shakey if I go too long with out eatting. My snacks are usually bananas, yogurt, s/f pudding etc. For lunch I was eatting lean cuisine, but have backed off on them and am currently eatting tuna, egg salad, salad with chicken or leftovers. Supper for the most part is chicken, chicken or chicken. We love chicken and there's so many different ways to cook it. Occasionally we also have steak or pork loin, roast or burgers. I'm just not a big red meat eatter. I try to focus on protien first and then the fruit/veg.
Again, it could be hard for the first few months, but it usually gets easier to eat. You will not know those things that you will and will not be able to eat until you have the surgery. Somethings you try early out might not work for you, but maybe 3, 6 or 9 months find you have no problem with them at all. It's truly trial and error, and everyone IS different.
Best wishes!
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10-04-2008, 10:25 AM
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Ok, here's mine. I'm 6 months out. I have never dumped. I have never gotten anything stuck.
Sugar-I have had up to 11g of sugar a couple of times (1. a small chocolate chip cookie 2. one cup of a Reeses Peanut Butter cup) and handled it fine. Haven't tried past that. Afraid to find out I can tolerate it and will do it more often. However, I don't think I would. I am so high on this weight loss that I have been determined to keep it up so I count my calories religiously and only eat 700-800 a day. Also, I don't do that on a regular basis, because it has no protein in it and if I eat that, I won't be hungry for my protein. So that was only a couple of times. Can handle natural sugars fine..fruit etc.
Bread-I can eat a small amount of any kind of bread, tortilla. I will usually eat about 1/4 to 1/2 of the bread or tortilla. I haven't pushed it past that because my stomach won't hold much and I want to get my protein in. So if I eat the bread, I get full too fast and don't get the protein. Same with pasta. I handle it fine but I make sure the pasta is only half or less of the meal so I can get protein in. I have had a little rice (a few bites) and had no problem but haven't tried more than that.
Meat-I can handle any meat, just have to make sure it is fairly moist, chew it well and can't eat much because it's heavy. If I eat only meat I can eat 3 oz at the most..like one piece of chicken or 1 small pork chop, steak 1/2 the size of a small pork chop, etc. But if I eat it with something else, veggies or pasta, can only eat half that.
Milk-don't seem to be lactose intolerant. Can eat any cheese. I have only tried skim milk but I think I would tolerate the low fat fine. I eat lowfat ice cream and full fat cheese, etc.
Fat-no problems with fat. Fried foods don't bother me but I don't like them as much..even pizza doesn't taste as good as it did before surgery. I don't like hamburgers either. I do like mexican food though, tostadas, sometimes tacos and of course the beans! I don't eat lean food persay but I do count calories so if something has too much fat, it's going to have too many calories for me so I will choose a lower fat item to get more for my calories. I have my rules I follow.
I think I covered it, hopefully. Did I miss anything? I am so happy with what has happened to me. This has completely changed my life for the better. Would be glad to answer any other questions you may have if I missed anything.
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10-05-2008, 02:46 AM
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Oh thank you SDeRossett for clarifying that for me. I feel so much better about it now and you gave me alot of great ideas for things to eat after my surgery! That fruit and yogurt sounds good right now! lol
The only thing that i cant stomach the taste of now is the equal or sweet n low. I dont add any sugar to anything now, only if sugar it in something already and I stopped drinking coffee because I only like sugar in it, and I try to stay away from it.
And yes youre right this is a lifestyle change so I'll take whatever comes my way. Im sure that after this surgery I wont be eatting any unhealthy things and whatever doesnt sit well with me I will stay away from but like who said maybe 3,6, or 9 months down i may be able to eat those things again. We shall see what those things are after my surgery lol
Im willing to make any sacrafices I have to make to be healthy and happy.
Thanks so much!
Oh and do you do still have to drink the protein shakes or did you ever have to?
Also what other types of things did you eat when you first had the surgery done?
I think the first week or two is liquids and then after that oatmeal and any kind of soft mushy foods lol after oatmeal im stuck on what else can be eatten at that stage.
I was thinking after the surgery we dont really have much of an appettite anyway so i wouldnt have to worry about what to eat for the first few weeks. But my doctor says that even if I wont want to eat, I have to.
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10-05-2008, 02:56 AM
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Hey Pummychal! Thanks that was great information you provided! Very honest and well said. I have tried the calorie count type of things before but never stuck with it (obviously lol) I did have a diet along time ago that i lost 77 pounds from and it was basically a list from my dietician of all the foods I coudnt eat and how to cook it or eat it. My dietician said.. if its not on that list you can eat it! And that seemed to work well for me then. And for along time I didnt touch anything that wasnt organic or fattening. I didnt crave for anything I wasnt supposed to have and I was thinking about following that diet after my surgery as well but now I think it may not work for me since you mad eme realize that we need that nutrition on our bodies and we have to get it from the foods we eat and the vitamins. My doctor explained to me that when we loose a large amount of weight at one time out we drain our bodies of its nutrition and vitamins and thats why we loose hair after a few months. So Im going to definatly keep what you said about that in the back of my head!
Thanks so much!
Are you still on the protein shakes or did you have to drink them after your surgery?
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