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Old 10-26-2009, 10:04 AM   #21 (permalink)
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For me the hardest part was accepting that I needed help to lose the weight. Once I truly accepted that I had tried and tried to no avail to lose the weight...and knowing whole-heartedly that the surgery was my only option to become healthier. Didn't know at the time that the surgery would make my life HAPPIER too!
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Old 10-26-2009, 11:37 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Im not really christian myself but I do believe that god teaches you to love yourself and live a long happy life an sometimes we dont always have the control we desire over our bodies. WLC is one way we can control our destiny. Feeling guilty that you may have betrayed your faith is understandable but really if anything you may just have embraced it.
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Old 10-27-2009, 06:04 AM   #23 (permalink)
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I felt guilty at first, then I prayed about it over some weeks, then found that it was definitely a good thing to have the surgery.
It also helped that one of the people on my WLS center's hand out was a pastor that lost 160 lbs! I figured he must have had issues with it, and I was going to talk to him about them. I was able to resolve my questions by myself. I didn't talk to my pastor about it, because I was sure there would be too much personal input ( maybe not).
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Old 10-27-2009, 08:18 AM   #24 (permalink)
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I just want to clarify if I was not clear from the original post.

I don't think God would be disapproving of WLS. I just feel guilty b/c I sometimes think that God would want me to worry about other things and not my weight.

Ah! Thank you for clarifying that. I often feel guilty about obsessing about wanting the surgery, about wanting to change (yes I want to do it for health reasons, but if I am honest there is a bit of me that vainly wants to be 'normal sized' and attractive). And for me anything that takes my attention away from my family obligations (especially onto me) feels especially sinful.

So I guess that yes, I feel guilty at times too, though I firmly believe that it is irrational. I guess a small part of me still feels like if I was 'good enough' or 'committed enough' I wouldn't need surgery. But I felt the same way about turning to weight watchers and atkins and the cabbage soup diet. I felt guilty and somehow like a failure everytime I couldn't just eat like a normal person and not balloon up. Rather like I have been cursed with this burden and am somehow a failure for not being strong or perfect enough. No doubt when I am in pain and exhausted and nauseated after surgery there will be a part of me that will take it as penance for my weakness there too. (Good ole Catholic guilt...) The maschocistic part of me loves the lash.

Please understand that I recognize that these are MY issues and may not reflect your feelings.

I also realize that by focusing on my family all these years I have been able to neglect myself with impunity, which was easier than changing. So it is all muddled in my head.

Part of the disease for me is working through the psychological and spiritual complexities that have contributed to it. But I honestly believe that the problem is in me, and not with my relationship to God. Rationally, I believe that my obesity is a disease (some of body and some of mind). I would never presume to tell someone with a disease that it was sinful to seek medical help. In fact, it seems sinful NOT to. So why am I so hard on myself? What makes me think that I am any better than anyone else? I totally appauld anyone who seeks WLS.

As to the obsessive thoughts about weight loss and the surgery, I *hope* that it is part of the healing. After all, it is a life-changing event that I will need to journey through to a place where I have a healthier relationship with food and with my own body. In my present state I feel like I am not a good witness to God's grace - more an advertisement for gluttony and sloth.

With such negative self-feelings is it any wonder I'd rather ignore me and focus on others? Ugh.

I have a long way to go before I am 'healed'. The surgery is a tool, but the real battle is between my ears and in my heart.

My apologies if this respons came across as negative and heavy. This is just something I've really been struggling with too. I'm actually rather grateful for the six month diet my insurance requires as it is forcing me to spend some time sorting these things out with my priest, my counselor, and my nutritionist (who has been surprisingly helpful on this matter!)
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Old 10-27-2009, 08:25 AM   #25 (permalink)
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Just a small question to the OP, have you tried therapy? They really do help with your feelings and what not. : )

Just a small suggestion.
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I remembered this article as I was reading this thread it's from Christianity Today, it is about weight loss in the Christian culture:

The Weigh and the Truth | Christianity Today | A Magazine of Evangelical Conviction

I'm not sure how it applies here... but it’s interesting

...“I don't think God would be disapproving of WLS. I just feel guilty b/c I sometimes think that God would want me to worry about other things and not my weight” ...

I hear you about this, I really need to get back to work and I’m at my computer researching smoothies. Losing weight is very time consuming.

...No doubt when I am in pain and exhausted and nauseated after surgery there will be a part of me that will take it as penance for my weakness there too. (Good ole Catholic guilt...) The maschocistic part of me loves the lash. ...too funny Amilea
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Old 10-27-2009, 10:10 AM   #27 (permalink)
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Just a small question to the OP, have you tried therapy? They really do help with your feelings and what not. : )

Just a small suggestion.
I am in therapy and I love it. Thanks!
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Old 10-27-2009, 10:12 AM   #28 (permalink)
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Ah! Thank you for clarifying that. I often feel guilty about obsessing about wanting the surgery, about wanting to change (yes I want to do it for health reasons, but if I am honest there is a bit of me that vainly wants to be 'normal sized' and attractive). And for me anything that takes my attention away from my family obligations (especially onto me) feels especially sinful.

So I guess that yes, I feel guilty at times too, though I firmly believe that it is irrational. I guess a small part of me still feels like if I was 'good enough' or 'committed enough' I wouldn't need surgery. But I felt the same way about turning to weight watchers and atkins and the cabbage soup diet. I felt guilty and somehow like a failure everytime I couldn't just eat like a normal person and not balloon up. Rather like I have been cursed with this burden and am somehow a failure for not being strong or perfect enough. No doubt when I am in pain and exhausted and nauseated after surgery there will be a part of me that will take it as penance for my weakness there too. (Good ole Catholic guilt...) The maschocistic part of me loves the lash.

Please understand that I recognize that these are MY issues and may not reflect your feelings.

I also realize that by focusing on my family all these years I have been able to neglect myself with impunity, which was easier than changing. So it is all muddled in my head.

Part of the disease for me is working through the psychological and spiritual complexities that have contributed to it. But I honestly believe that the problem is in me, and not with my relationship to God. Rationally, I believe that my obesity is a disease (some of body and some of mind). I would never presume to tell someone with a disease that it was sinful to seek medical help. In fact, it seems sinful NOT to. So why am I so hard on myself? What makes me think that I am any better than anyone else? I totally appauld anyone who seeks WLS.

As to the obsessive thoughts about weight loss and the surgery, I *hope* that it is part of the healing. After all, it is a life-changing event that I will need to journey through to a place where I have a healthier relationship with food and with my own body. In my present state I feel like I am not a good witness to God's grace - more an advertisement for gluttony and sloth.

With such negative self-feelings is it any wonder I'd rather ignore me and focus on others? Ugh.

I have a long way to go before I am 'healed'. The surgery is a tool, but the real battle is between my ears and in my heart.

My apologies if this respons came across as negative and heavy. This is just something I've really been struggling with too. I'm actually rather grateful for the six month diet my insurance requires as it is forcing me to spend some time sorting these things out with my priest, my counselor, and my nutritionist (who has been surprisingly helpful on this matter!)
Not harsh at all...Thanks!
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Old 10-27-2009, 10:47 AM   #29 (permalink)
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My dad was a baptist preacher when I was growing up and until he passed away and now my brother is a baptist preacher, so I have a very religous family and not once did this ever come up about my surgery. I guess they were all too thankful that I was going to be able to "keep living" by having this surgery to worry about if God was mad or not.

Does God not love reformed alcoholics? Does God not love reformed drug abusers? Does God not love smokers that quit smoking? What about gambling addicts? Does God get upset because these people seek out help and get better? It does not matter in what form the help comes in.....not all things can be fixed with the same process or procedure. It depends on the end result! What matters is you took control of your sin (if that is the way you see it) and you made it right again. Ask for forgiveness, if you feel this strongly about it.

God is a loving God, why would he hold it against you because you started loving the physical body that he gave you, since this is what you say he wanted you to do to start with?

When your child is small and reaching to grab something off of a table that they are not supposed to touch, you tell them no.....but they grab it anyway. You are disappointed and try to guide them in the other direction when you can. Then one day, you tell them no and they don't grab it and go do something else that they are allowed to do. Does it make you angry that your child finally listened or do you sigh relief and say to yourself, thank goodness they finally listened? I think that gets my point across.....

I think God would rather you find something else to occupy your brain cells and stop feeling guilty for something he does not intend you to feel guilty for. Say a prayer of thankfulness to him for what "HE'S" giving you! I do EVERY DAY! There are alot of people in this world that do not get this gift and are dying slowly everyday from morbid obesity. Consider yourself one of the chosen few that gets to have this surgery to better your life. I was one of the chosen few that God gave me my dear, sweet mom whom I love with all my heart that worked to get the $30,000 to pay cash for my surgery to keep me alive. That is being blessed....how can I feel guilty? I am just THANKFUL! Just stop and say thank you.....

Edited: And I just read the OP's last post clarifying that she does not feel guilty about surgery but that she feels she should worry more about other things. Dear, if you are sick or worse...almost dead..from being obese in the long run, you wont be able to think about anything else or be any good to anyone? Again, God WANTS us to take care of our bodies. Why can you not take care of your body and your family and your job and your house, etc.? Priorities..... There is NO shame in you being first on that list sometimes. Did God ever say we are to sacrifice ourselves always for others? I don't think so.
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Old 10-28-2009, 06:09 AM   #30 (permalink)
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Being a pastor, I dealt with this myself on a personal level. I told EVERYONE and had several responses. Here is the conclusion I have come to and have peace about.

Gastric Bypass is not a sin. However, glutton and food addiction are. No one ever preaches on overeating because we're all guilty of it and truth be told, most churches celebrate it by having "fellowships" that enable people to stuff themselves sick.

WLS is just a tool to help an addict overcome there addiction and gain recontrol of there life. The illustration I compare it too, is a internet filter for a porn addict. If you physically cannot get to your addiction for a while you will begin to learn to live without it and then be able to alter your behavior. I hope this helps.
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