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Old 03-30-2007, 08:06 PM   #1 (permalink)
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details, Jenny, details!! Enquiring (nosy) minds want to know! Have you got a dress, will the kids be with you? Honeymoon in Vegas, Canada, Here, Where? Will you be moving "out of the area code, or will Andrew relocate here? Will you have a reception party here so all your staplers can party with you?
Details, details, it all comes down to the little things. Okay here's some answers :

1. I picked out a dress, but the cost is prohibitive. Even with people telling me that $600 for a wedding dress isn't bad, I'm barely scrapping money together to pay the rent and feed my children. A wedding dress is something that will have to wait....damn it looked beautiful though. Should anyone like to see it an imagine it on me....click here

2. The kids will probably not be there for the ceremony. Andrew has never been to Vegas and I'd like to be able to spend some time with him there, and children are not allowed on the casino floors.

3. No honeymoon yet, again, the cost is too much.

4. Long term plans have me moving to Canada, but the ex has thrown a wrench into everything by hiring an attorney. He says it's to make sure that he doesn't get screwed. See here's what's been happening.....

I went into the family law facilitator and had the papers drawn up to modify our visitation agreement so that I could move with our son to Canada. I put everything that he asked me to put in there. I emailed him saying that I had the papers and where could I send them. He didn't reply. When I finally caught him on the phone, he tried to lie and say he didn't have internet access, but yet he was able to email the kids at the same time.

After I busted his lie, he said he'd hired an attorney and he wanted that person to look over the papers to make sure he wasn't getting screwed over while in an emotional state. I'm very worried about this. We had an agreement, and now he wants to change it. He wants me to alter the papers again to say that we can move anywhere in the US we want to, just not to Canada. If I agree to this, he will keep my daughter on his medical insurance as well as continue to pay the full support amount (the papers I just had drawn up, had the support amount dropped by $550).

So with him saying that we could move anywhere in the US, I take that to mean anywhere....Northern Alaska, US Virgin Islands, Guam, North east Maine....you get the idea. Seriously though, he tried to say that he wouldn't be able to afford $1000 each time it was his turn to get the kids...that would be half the plane fare IF the children were flying out of Pearson International in Toronto. If Andrew and I drive the 2 hours to go to Buffalo, the cost of the plane tickets drops by about $300 each. So that argument is blown.

Then he says he wants to make sure the kids have adequate health care. What....Canada is a third world country and I didn't hear about it? Ontario has a comprehensive government health care system (OHIP) that is more than adequate for the children's needs.

I had a free consultation with an attorney on the phone the other day, who happens to be acquainted with the ex's lawyer. She feels that this man would tell my ex if he feels that he's preparing to fight a losing battle. And that is what this would be. I am not trying to cut off my ex husband's visitation with his son. On the contrary, I am giving him MORE visitation than he has currently. Not only that but I've researched the areas we'd like to live in, the health care system, the schools, and I have multiple potential jobs waiting for me. I'm trying to give my children a better life, not be a bitch to my ex (although that is a pleasant side effect).

The lawyer I spoke to said they take many factors into consideration. First off, is the child's extended family in the area. My ex husband's family is in Texas, my family is here. Then they look at social activities...is he in sports (no), does he have a wide circle of friends (no), will transporting him from one school to another have a detrimental effect on him (he's in the 5th grade, next year he'll go to a middle school where he won't know anyone....I'd say this is a no). They look at the relationship between the child and the parents...who has he bonded with (me). To top it off, the ex has a military domestic violence charge against him, and he won't even be in the city himself. He'll be stationed 2 hours away and won't be able to just "drop in" and visit our son whenever he chooses. Add to that the fact that he is a deployable service member and the case is pretty grim on his side.

It would be in his best interests (financially) to just sign the papers and let me go. I can't afford a lawyer should this go to court. Hell, I'm having issues getting our son a passport because no one told me that both parents have to be present when applying. Thank god for special circumstances.

4 (part 2). Andrew has already said that if it looks like I can't come up anytime soon, he will come down here. We're leaving that option open. He has an amazing job with potential for raises, promotions, royalties, etc, that I don't want him to pass up.

5. I would love to have a reception both here and in Canada, but money is once again an issue. We figured that just for the wedding (not counting rings, clothes, or food), we're going to need about $1500. This pays for his air fare to Vegas, hotel, gas for me to drive there and back, the marriage license, and the wedding itself.

Right now, money is a HUGE issue for me. The state has royally screwed up my child support and I'm JUST NOW getting the check that was due the first week of March. I'm facing eviction if my paycheck and child support checks don't show up within the next week. I'm lucky if I can put away $20 from one paycheck...and that's with the children and I living off of ramen noodles and peanut butter (not at the same time mind you).

The ex did promise to give me $400 on the 15th (didn't get it) and another $400 on the first (doubt I'll see it)...and this would go a long way towards getting bills in order and being able to help Andrew pay for the wedding stuff. It isn't fair to him to expect him to foot the bill for everything. This is our life now, and we contribute to it as equally as possible.

As most of you know, my apartment complex is being converted into condos. I still haven't gotten the notice that I have to move. Once we do get it, they have to give us 60 days. As of today, 60 days is May 29th. I can't afford the deposit / first months rent on a new place. Not to mention credit checks at every single place I apply to. My credit is shot, I'm a single mother on a single mother's income. I had just planned to go to Canada when those 60 days were up. Andrew's lease is up on May 28th and the timing of the two are perfect. However, I have this issue with nippleshit (my sister's name for my ex). So as of right now, when I have to leave here, I'm going to put everything in storage and live in the car I guess....that is unless he signs the papers.

Everything comes down to money, and the lack of it. I just want to be with Andrew and start our life together. The kids love him, and together we will be okay. Being apart and paying bills for 2 separate residences, utilities, etc is killing the both of us. I understand my ex's motives. He's hurt, his pride is in tatters because, technically I left him for another man. He's looking for someone to hurt because he's hurting and I'm convenient. What he doesn't realize is that while he's trying to hurt me, all he's really doing is mildly annoying me...like an itch you can't reach....and he's really hurting the children. The two small people he said he would never do anything to hurt.
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Old 03-30-2007, 09:47 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Aww Jenny you seem to have a lot of your plate. My prayers are with you that things work them selves out. I didn't get a chance to view your gown. It didn't pop up. Did you enter to win the dress. Maybe we can all register to Win that dress for you.
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wow jenny do you have your hands full, hugs to you hun, you sound like you are handling everything gracefully........as for that dress, yes denise, great idea, you have to live in the states to enter, so anyone that can, should enter to win it for jenny!

wish there was something i could do to help, i will send positive thoughts your way that everything will work out and you will get you and the kids to canada - it really is a great place to live!
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Jenny wishing you the best and that everything will begin to fall into place for you, Andrew and the kids.

Sorry you are going through such a rough time right now. Here's hoping that the ex will realize that it is truly the kids who are affected by his actions. They don't deserve that.

Beautiful dress!!!!!!
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Old 03-31-2007, 06:30 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Your dress is SO beautiful, but you would look good in a potato sack, girl. It sounds like your time with Andrew is drawing near, which makes me so happy for you--and your first year together will be that much sweeter because of the obstacles you're conquering to make it happen. I'm proud of you, girl! Each day, I see you get stronger and stronger, more determined to make your life happen the way you deserve to have it. Money problems suck, truly, I've been there, and you're right, it does always seem to come to that. Keep holding your head up... and when it seems like you're going completely mad, you can go to despair.com and get a laugh. Here's one of my favorites:

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At least you can still see the bright spots in all that. Being together with ANdrew, and the children being happy.. the path that takes you there isnt nearly as important as the destination (it is NOW... but later.. it will be the destination keeping you happy).

I wish you all the best.. and Andrew too! Heres hoping the gods shine down on you and a Brinks truck wrecks right outside your door
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Definitely details! I'm so sorry that NS is being such a pain in the ass. My ex tried the same kind of stuff on a lesser degree, and all he ended up doing was look extremely idiotic. He tried to fight me on custody, not because he wanted custody of the kids, but he wanted them to know he loved them. I had legal aid, he paid out of pocket. We had a custody evaluation done. They interviewed everyone the kids regularly interacted with. When it was time for the decision, he didn't bother to show up!! Was his atty pissed. He didn't want to be there to here how he needed to start an intensive therapy program and that the kids were in a much more healthy environment with me. So in the end things will resolve and you will look back and shake your head that you were able to actually get through this time. You are a much different person than if met a year ago. You are confident, proud, and vital! You were depressed, confused, and very unsure of yourself. You're doing it grrl!!! Keep your head up, watch for holes in the road ahead of you, and Andrew and you WILL be okay. You have the guts it takes to survive, lady!
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Jenny, I wish you luck. There's a saying "The Lord helps those who help themselves" You've been doing a lot of heavy thinking, soul-searching, and research. Seems to me you're about ready for some Divine help. You are such a strong, good person- I'm sure it will work out! It has to! I pray it works out for you sooner rather than later, too!
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My situation ws somewhat similar to yours, altho my nippleshit turned out to be a paper tiger in the end. Here's the readers digest condensed version. I kicked his sorry ass out in 2002. I filed all the paperwork myself (divorce, restraining order custody and child support),with the help of the family law facilitator and a free paralegal from the YWCA(a great resource, BTW). He fussed and kicked a bit, but finally realized he was beat,and everything went my way when we went to court. Divorce was final in 2003.

Fast forward about 6 months. I received an email from my HS sweetheart. He still lived where I grew up...in NY. I was in Washington state. Very long story short, we fell in grown-up love and are now together here in NY.

In order to leave WA, I had to file papers with the court and have the ex served.(I again did this all myself, no lawyer) He again put up a fuss...and it was kinda dicey for a while. What finally convinced him to let me take her was realizing what was best for our daughter. I wrote him a letter than put it all on the line, and he backed down, because, even tho he's an ass, he loves her. I know this is all a long explanation, but I just wanted to give you some hope.

I've followed your posts about you and Andrew because your situation reminded me a little bit of mine . My honey and I have fought against so much to be together that it's precious to both of us. Little annoyances just fall away, because I pined for him for sooooo long. I literally CAN'T get mad at him for longer than a moment. (MY ex would find this shocking!) At night, when I lay next to him and listen to his heart beat, I remember all the nights I slept alone in WA, and I feel so lucky to have him close. We've been living together for close to 2 years now, and that feeling of gratitude hasn't faded one bit. My wish for you is is that every day you're waiting for all of this mess to get straightened out becomes fuel for your gratitude fire.

Check out your local YWCA if you have one. They truly are an incredible resource. Good luck to you...be strong
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Tiny update - the ex refuses to sign the papers we'd agreed upon, stating that to let his son out of the country will damage his security clearance or something along those lines. He's not budging on this. I could do a few different things :

1. Wring my hands and wail about the future
2. Give in to his demands and agree to stay in the country
3. Wait it all out and see what happens
4. Absolutely nothing, living under the false hope that he'll suddenly become a decent human being and arrange it so his son doesn't have to suffer because I can't afford to live out here.

Currently I'm wavering between all 4. Packing up and leaving in the middle of the night is looking more and more appealing.
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