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Totally un-clever title for a routine update

Jen581791

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It’s update time. 

I’m at almost 8 months out, and things are going really well. I’ve lost 117 pounds (!) in 9 months - I lost 20 pounds in the month pre-op. I’m 23 pounds away from my somewhat flexible goal weight of 150. That sounds crazy to me. I mean, it’s only been 9 months total. That’s a pretty quick timeframe for losing a whole human's worth of weight.

I’m eating around 800 calories per day still, with a few days that go up to 1000 if I’m being social, and a few days that are down around 600 if I’m busy or something doesn’t sit well with me. I’m getting my 65+ grams of protein per day (usually 75 or so). I’m still tracking like it’s my job. I take my vitamins daily. I drink my 64oz+ of water per day. I feel like I’m getting enough food to have enough energy to do everything I want to. I sometimes feel a little more interested in food than I was a couple of months ago, and some things have stopped tasting as bad as they have for the past few months. Almonds are OK now, and dairy tastes less weird. The things that taste the best are fruits and vegetables. My newly increased veg quantities (raw veggie sticks every day, occasional salads) means improvement on the regularity front, thank goodness. I can eat basically anything, but sometimes get that stuck feeling if I eat something really dense or don’t chew well enough. Eggs sometimes just feel stuck. Fish sometimes just feels stuck. Sometimes I don’t chew my carrot sticks into smithereens and they feel stuck. That one is totally on me, though.

A typical day’s food for me might be: 

  • protein shake for breakfast
  • greek yogurt for lunch
  • vegetable sticks and spicy labneh dip (basically greek yogurt with spices stirred in) for a snack
  • a piece of cheese for another snack
  • maybe a few almonds
  • protein and a bit of veg for dinner (fake meat or shrimp or fish or tofu or cheese, cooked in some kind of spicy sauce, plus the vegetables that go with it)

I’m not really eating any junk or anything that isn’t pretty healthy, in fact. I have a glass of wine every week or so, socially. I have almonds or veggie sticks or cheese when I want a snack. I’ve been faced with pizza and pasta and chips and all that stuff I used to just need many many times, and I think I’ve just sort of grown immune to it. My diet is currently sort of low-carb, sort of keto - it’s about 50% fat, and 40% protein, and 10% carbs, which come almost exclusively from fruit and veg and dairy. I’m not really sure how I’ll change that up as I approach goal - it seems that the fewer carbs I have, the fewer I want, but I think I’ll be willing to test out some quinoa or whatever at that point. I think I’ll probably increase my bean intake then, though, because I love beans and have actually been feeling a bit deprived since I’m avoiding eating too many of them while I’m in the active losing phase, because they are pretty high in carbs (the good kind of carbs! I’m just trying to stay in ketosis).

I’m exercising as much as I should be, I think. I go to the gym 4 or 5 days per week, and almost always get at least my 10,000 steps on the other days. I’m doing mostly cardio at the gym for the moment, but a little bit of weights (I know I should focus on that more). I’m walking fast, doing a little running (15 minutes for now), and/or a little elliptical. My body is feeling really good. My cardio fitness is getting pretty good - I don’t get winded when running (albeit slowly) and I’m happy to run up and down the stairs at work instead of taking the elevator. I don’t feel like I’m lugging around a 100+ lb backpack all the time, dragging myself up stairs, getting tired just walking a bit. I have, in general, a lot more energy now - I feel energized by going to the gym instead of exhausted by it, so now I look forward to going there. 

My body is still doing the weird shrinking a lot quickly and getting loose skin, and then letting the skin catch up thing. Right now I’m in a tightening phase, I guess, since my arms are a bit less wobbly. Things are, in general, not too weird with my skin, which is wonderful, and also does not guarantee that it will be this way in 20 more pounds. Basically, I’m not counting my chickens yet, but I’m thankful for those as yet uncounted chickens, however many of them there turn out to be when I count them at some future date.

My clothes are getting too big insanely quickly now. I just had a bunch of stuff taken in at the tailor’s, and they are already a bit too big, and I can see that it’s a matter of weeks before I either get them taken in again or just buy new stuff. I think this tailor is going to have some pretty regular business from me. At the beginning, 10 pounds made zero difference in my clothing size. I had to lose like 30 to change sizes at all. Now, 10 pounds is totally changing how my clothes fit. Which is great. And it also sucks.

I’ve told a few friends about my WLS, not many, but a few. They have all been very positive. I feel like the more success I have, the easier it is to tell people, because, hey, what can you say when someone you’ve known for a long time who has had a weight problem since forever suddenly is much thinner, healthier, and happier? 

I’m in a closed Fb group for women who had surgery at the same time as me, and I kind of wish they had the same support as I do here on TTF. They very early started to slip and slide back into some of the eating habits that I’m trying not to fall into. At the moment, there are several of them who keep coming back on to complain that they haven’t lost anything in months and are worried their surgery didn’t work and they make pledges and promises to “get back on track.” I’m happy to say that the complete and total normalization of eating in a pretty controlled fashion that happens here on TTF has helped me enormously - I don’t need to “get back on track” because I haven’t left the track. I understand that my first year or so out is my honeymoon period, when I should lose the maximum I can because my lack of hunger and my tiny stomach make that easier during this time.  It is amazingly helpful to read of people six months out, a year out, several years out, many years out who still think very mindfully about what it is they’re putting in their bodies and take great care to make sure it’s protein first, then veggies, then everything else if there’s room. Seeing that people can continue in this manner without feeling “deprived” or like they “deserve a treat” really helps me think about food this way, too. When everyone helps create this climate of careful eating, I benefit by feeling I’m not alone. I don’t have any sort of god-given or constitutional right to pizza after work at the end of a long week. I have a responsibility to my body to provide it with the nutrition it needs, particularly protein. Entertainment food can come later if I have room. Thank you to all the people here on TTF who contribute to the climate of healthy eating that exists here on the forum. I don’t know what I’d do without you :) 

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@Jen581791  Great post and even more spectacular progress. You are an inspiration and monument to what can be done when you stick to the Plan. Your clear words, evident success, and honest postings are a gift to the rest of us posting here. :wub:

My admiration for your progress includes your having taken such a positivist course when it comes to things like adding in more exercise, and gradually revealing to others what you have had done:  "I feel like the more success I have, the easier it is to tell people, because, hey, what can you say when someone you’ve known for a long time who has had a weight problem since forever suddenly is much thinner, healthier, and happier?" These are hard issues for so many of us. 

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@Jen581791 you are doing SO great! I love reading your successes!  You are doing wonderful in your mindset too...and that is a big part of the battle.  If I had a dollar for everytime myself or someone else convinced themselves they "deserved" a slice of pizza or a piece of cake etc...I'd not only be fat, but I would be rich!

anyway, thanks for going before me and proving it IS possible!!!

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Thanks, @BurgundyBoy and @CJireh :) I'm really happy to be a "good example" for anyone who's coming along behind me - be it a month or a year (or more?). I was totally determined to do things by the book and be as perfect as I could be in the first year out. If figure if this is my one allocated do-over, I'd better get it right! I'm working hard on the mindset thing. It's easier right now because I'm in the honeymoon phase, so food is less tempting than it will be, I'm sure, and I'm feeling the constant motivation of losing another pound, so it's easier to stay on track. What I'm hoping, though, is that I'm establishing a baseline of habit now that will help me through the tough times that are certain to come later. They say it takes 28 days to form a habit (well, that's been proven and debunked many times over the years, but it's what they say...), so I'm pretty sure taking 365 days to build habits means they'll be more likely to stick.

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Fantastic update! You have done so well making thousands of good decisions and really putting in the work. Just awesome! I'm glad to hear more foods are tasting good to you.

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I couldn't agree more on the "climate of healthy eating" that happens here on TT. So happy to be a part of it and to have you and others contributing as well!  Great update @Jen581791 and congrats on the accomplishments.

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@Jen581791 - You have SO got this!  You are an inspiration, and also good at inadvertantly challenging people to STICK TO IT.  Also, love the new pic <3

Where are you finding the weight comparison diagram thingies? 

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4 hours ago, TammyP said:

@Jen581791 - You have SO got this!  You are an inspiration, and also good at inadvertantly challenging people to STICK TO IT.  Also, love the new pic <3

Where are you finding the weight comparison diagram thingies? 

Thanks! on all fronts :) 

Here's the webpage with the diagrams: https://www.obesitycoverage.com/how-much-i-lost/ It's pretty hilarious.

I lost two more pounds overnight (how on earth does that happen? no idea, but I'll take it). That leaves me with this: 

 

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9 hours ago, Jen581791 said:

Thanks, @BurgundyBoy and @CJireh :) I'm really happy to be a "good example" for anyone who's coming along behind me - be it a month or a year (or more?). I was totally determined to do things by the book and be as perfect as I could be in the first year out. If figure if this is my one allocated do-over, I'd better get it right! I'm working hard on the mindset thing. It's easier right now because I'm in the honeymoon phase, so food is less tempting than it will be, I'm sure, and I'm feeling the constant motivation of losing another pound, so it's easier to stay on track. What I'm hoping, though, is that I'm establishing a baseline of habit now that will help me through the tough times that are certain to come later. They say it takes 28 days to form a habit (well, that's been proven and debunked many times over the years, but it's what they say...), so I'm pretty sure taking 365 days to build habits means they'll be more likely to stick.

The Power of Habit by Charles Duhigg. Jenn, If I could buy this for you, I would, and for everyone Lurking here. Sincerely no bull$h. Everyone considering WLS for $$$$ should read this book. Best BB

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Wow Jen, I love your updates! I do wonder, though...at the risk of sounding like somebody’s mom, are you eating enough? 800 cals just doesn’t seem like much for 8 months out. But feel free to ignore me. ;)

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16 hours ago, BurgundyBoy said:

The Power of Habit by Charles Duhigg. Jenn, If I could buy this for you, I would, and for everyone Lurking here. Sincerely no bull$h. Everyone considering WLS for $$$$ should read this book. Best BB

Is this really good? I read some so-so reviews on it (not very original, etc.) And what the heck is WLS for $$$$? Sounds like a game show, lol.

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15 hours ago, Carina said:

Is this really good? I read some so-so reviews on it (not very original, etc.) And what the heck is WLS for $$$$? Sounds like a game show, lol.

Ha! It does sound like a game show, doesn't it? :P By "WLS for $$$$" I meant that many of us are incurring substantial health care funds (personal copays (like the $4000 by @xmandy) or insurance company paid for by our premiums),  incurring new lifestyle expenses (new wardrobes; new foods; gym memberships; psychiatrists; personal trainers; new boyfriends/girlfriends and thus divorce lawyers; adventure vacations, etc) and changing our lives in other ways. More seriously I suppose you could argue, though, that over the long run it is "WLS to save $$$$" since health care costs will overall decline and our personal outlays for Twinkies and Doritos goes down. 

For me the value of a book like Duhigg's is that it compiles information for me in one place so that I had an "Aha!" moment over and over again as I read the book. Original? Can't say, but it was new to me, and useful, and the structure of the book built well on prior insights. Both personal habit construction, and organizational habits, are discussed. I've come to see how much of my behavior is habitual, and how with a bit of effort I could construct a web of habits to support an healthy life. 

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17 hours ago, Carina said:

Wow Jen, I love your updates! I do wonder, though...at the risk of sounding like somebody’s mom, are you eating enough? 800 cals just doesn’t seem like much for 8 months out. But feel free to ignore me. ;)

Thanks for being my mom, @Carina :) No need to worry about offending me by offering an observation. I think 800 calories per day is enough for me right now - I don't feel either hungry or lethargic, and I'm OK with exercising for around an hour most days. I know some other people on the forum here who've done a similar number of calories until they hit goal weight, so I'm kind of going off what they did. I'm thinking I'll hit my goal weight in the next few months, so it shouldn't be much longer, I think. I know your team has a very different approach to post-op eating, so you're experiencing this in a different way from me, and I appreciate your wondering about me. Trust me, 800 calories doesn't sound like much to me, either! I've given myself permission to eat more if/when I feel hungry or low on energy, and sometimes I do. I pretty much thought I'd need more food by now, but I don't really feel that way at the moment. I know it'll happen eventually, though. 

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2 hours ago, BurgundyBoy said:

Ha! It does sound like a game show, doesn't it? :P By "WLS for $$$$" I meant that many of us are incurring substantial health care funds (personal copays (like the $4000 by @xmandy) or insurance company paid for by our premiums),  incurring new lifestyle expenses (new wardrobes; new foods; gym memberships; psychiatrists; personal trainers; new boyfriends/girlfriends and thus divorce lawyers; adventure vacations, etc) and changing our lives in other ways. More seriously I suppose you could argue, though, that over the long run it is "WLS to save $$$$" since health care costs will overall decline and our personal outlays for Twinkies and Doritos goes down. 

For me the value of a book like Duhigg's is that it compiles information for me in one place so that I had an "Aha!" moment over and over again as I read the book. Original? Can't say, but it was new to me, and useful, and the structure of the book built well on prior insights. Both personal habit construction, and organizational habits, are discussed. I've come to see how much of my behavior is habitual, and how with a bit of effort I could construct a web of habits to support an healthy life. 

I'll give it a go - I really enjoy the process of exploring how much of our behavior is consciously decided vs. autopilot. Are we all just wind-up toys? Sometimes I think so.

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12 minutes ago, Jen581791 said:

I'll give it a go - I really enjoy the process of exploring how much of our behavior is consciously decided vs. autopilot. Are we all just wind-up toys? Sometimes I think so.

A lot of behavior is auto-pilot, but that isn't bad. Just think about how intense it was to drive a car when you were a teenager versus now after decades of driving. A lot of the "awareness of the environment" is now an habit, when as a teenager it required very active engagement.... and older habitual drivers are safer drivers than teenage drivers. :D They have the habit of driving well and defensively. 

When it comes to eating, of course, I am clueless and have no insight into my own habits.... :wacko:

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1 hour ago, BurgundyBoy said:

When it comes to eating, of course, I am clueless and have no insight into my own habits.... :wacko:

Separated at birth....

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1 minute ago, Carina said:

Separated at birth....

.... Alas so true! So true! How could those habits have gotten away at such a tender age!

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